Intercasa Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 The state of Jalisco has approved property tax increases for the majority of municipalities, Chapala will have one of the largest increases which will be 37%, Jocotepec 18%, Guadalajara 8.81% and Zapopan will remain the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osoprehistorico Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 The state of Jalisco has approved property tax increases for the majority of municipalities, Chapala will have one of the largest increases which will be 37%, Jocotepec 18%, Guadalajara 8.81% and Zapopan will remain the same. And Ajijic? Same as Chapala, I presume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercasa Posted November 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Ajijic is within the municipality of Chapala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBearII Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 37% is a rather staggering increase. Any chance the authorities will be persuaded to back off on it? What is their rationale for such a huge increase? Trying to pay off the Chapala municipal debt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 You can be sure with this huge increase that the lousy services Chapala provides won't improve. However, there will be much more money in the pot to steal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tycobb1020 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 What is the amount of a typical property tax bill for, say, a home purchased for $150,000 USD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joco Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 What is the amount of a typical property tax bill for, say, a home purchased for $150,000 USD? From what I've heard it was a staggering $150 dollars a year before the increase so now I assume it will be a little over $200 in Chapala. Almost as bad as the $2500 a year you would pay in a state like Texas. Big deal, and people want to know what additional services they will get for that extra money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tingting Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 From what I've heard it was a staggering $150 dollars a year before the increase so now I assume it will be a little over $200 in Chapala. Almost as bad as the $2500 a year you would pay in a state like Texas. Big deal, and people want to know what additional services they will get for that extra money. While I truly agree with you that it's a drop in the bucket compared to what we actually DID pay in Texas in 2005 (when we left), I think it misses the bigger picture--while it's probably not a big deal for the majority, what about the locals and expats who are living on a very tight budget? What if Texas had suddenly announced a 37% increase in THEIR taxes? It would have been a big deal then. Why is this so lopsided? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xena Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Agree with Tingting. This is staggering for the nationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 A 37% increase or decrease is a staggering amount by any standard, it is obscene ...please do not compare the NOB with the south living..add this increase to what has been experienced with private insurance premiums , 35/45% and the COL here shows a worrisome trend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Remember this is coming on top of annual increases that are double the rate of inflation. The problem I have is not with the total amount, which will push our taxes to over $500 annually, it is the dismal services we get from Chapala. No matter how much money you give them, they aren't going to deliver competent services. In fact, as the taxes have marched steadily upwards since we've lived here, the quality of the services has marched just as steadily in the opposite direction. You won't get what you pay for from this government, folks. That's the bottom line. Comparisons with Texas with its superb services, schools and roads is pretty meaningless IMO. Remember you're also paying a 16 percent sales tax on everything you buy and you're paying $1.20 more for a gallon of gas because of all the taxes hidden in there. Government is typically a "worst buy" everywhere but here it particularly qualifies for that rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Zapopan none? Is not it where the "rich" people live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bowie Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Remember you're also paying a 16 percent sales tax on everything you buy and you're paying $1.20 more for a gallon of gas because of all the taxes hidden in there. Government is typically a "worst buy" everywhere but here it particularly qualifies for that rating. BTW, how much is a liter of gas now? We have been visiting NOB and filled up yesterday for $2.449 a gallon. Not looking forward to the gas price jump and tolls when we drive back home to Mexico in 6 weeks. And, certainly not a 37% increase in taxes. Seems like that "gap" between the "good" and the "bad" keeps getting smaller and smaller each year. Need a "plan B" when it equals out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giltner68 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 I think you slipped a digit there, it's more like $2.50 a gallon which is great and it continues down. Property taxes are relative, before I moved to MX 7 years ago I paid $6K that year, now in a smaller place it's $550 a year but services are as expected NOB, unlike Riberas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xena Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Where are you living now, Giltner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogirl Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 I really don't understand how people constantly compare to what they paid in their hometown. It makes no sense. Most of us on not living on the income we used to have. And as another posted mentioned 37% is huge no matter where you are living. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xena Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Expats have the option of returning to their own country. Mexican nationals have no options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldyfeliz Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 My wife is Mexican and she can always give me a different perspective. Many Mexicans believe that PRI(the part in power) wishes to halt the increase in the middle class, so as to have more lower income labor to compete with China for Industry. There was news a few days ago that the President made the proposal that all health services be combined and the Mexican people pay for their health services. Also there was news this am of Pemex taking a price increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcstroker Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Comparisons with Texas with its "superb" services, schools and roads is pretty meaningless IMO. Thanks for my laugh for the day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVGRINGO Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Yup; Texas schools are right up there with Mississippi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerm Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 YUP RV Depending on which survey you look at Texas is around #9 and I think Mississippi is #50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajijicsolomon Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Well there goes my proposed dental work and new glasses. Thank God I am not on a tight budget. So sorry for those that are expats and national alike, especially since it is already the middle of November and all the holidays coming up. Of course this is not gonna help the real estate market either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 If there has been a good reason for a demonstration outside city hall, this must rank pretty high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snafu Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 I think you slipped a digit there, it's more like $2.50 a gallon which is great and it continues down. Property taxes are relative, before I moved to MX 7 years ago I paid $6K that year, now in a smaller place it's $550 a year but services are as expected NOB, unlike Riberas. Outside of snow removal, what services are we missing here? Electric, gas, water, telephone, internet, trash pickup, what? Every time the cost of food, utilities, taxes, gasoline, etc. go up, more people enter that "Poverty level". It's one way, you don't get back out. It's unstoppable, it's the plan, NAU is on. Mexico's in on TPP, you think it's bad now? Wait till next year when the Corporations control everything and Government, and, we the People, have no say. Obama stated he will sign it this year without Congress approval. If you don't know what TPP is, worth a read. http://rt.com/op-edge/trans-pacific-partnership-obama-704/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryB Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Don't think of it as an increase. Think of it as an opportunity to continue getting nothing for just 37% more! Plus they just increased the municipal debt so they can't say they've (PAN) been paying it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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