ajijiccharlie Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Ixtlahuacan, for example, is now part of the Greater Guadalajara Metropolitan Area, as are Zapopan and Tlajomulco. Chapala could actually be next; the entire municipality, including Ajijic of course. And Ixtluhuacan now has buried utility wires--which is enough for me to want to become part of greater Guadalajara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayaca Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Hector and I have made many trips to Guadalajara and are developing positive relationships with state officials. Who knows what may come with the next administration. Please know that it was Ajijic that swung the vote for PRI and state officials are aware and grateful, especially after losing Guad and the surrounding area. Ajijic is their shining victory. Hopefully soon we'll begin to see how grateful they can be? Sorry Harry you're dead wrong on this one! Final vote count in Ajijic for top 3 candidates was as follows: PAN 1,327 -- PRI 1,316 -- MC 1,142. That's right, the party that you so often beat up on for not giving Ajijic it's fair share, the party that caused such a ruckus with the street paving project, the party that has been such an obstacle to your compadre-delegado, etc. etc., pulled in more votes than any other. In fact, Ajijic was the only town that actually Pelayo won, albeit by a razor thin margin. Degollado carried Chapala, San Nicolás and Santa Cruz. Anaya carried Atotonilquillo and San Antonio. Ultimately it was Chapala that swung the vote for PRI. Degollado "won" with 35.78% of the vote. 64.22% of the electorate voted for someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Regards RV's comment I believe the new Presidente has stated he is going to investigate the possibility of becoming part of the Greater Guadalajara area. I think this would be a good topic for a separate thread here. This thread and discussion is an absolute waste of time and breath. Feel free to not participate in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Since foreigners have no say on it , I am not sure why they even bother talking about it. What will be will be . We have a bigger chance of becoming part of Guadalajara than having a new municiaplity but one way or the other it is out of our hands so just go with the flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carcamal Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Ixtlahuacan, for example, is now part of the Greater Guadalajara Metropolitan Area, as are Zapopan and Tlajomulco. Chapala could actually be next; the entire municipality, including Ajijic of course. The Greater Guadalajara Metropolitan Area is just a census-designated area, not a unit of government. All the eight municipios within it still have their municipal governments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 The Greater Guadalajara Metropolitan Area is just a census-designated area, not a unit of government. All the eight municipios within it still have their municipal governments. Formerly, the greater Guadalajara Metropolitan Area municipios for census statistics were as follows, Guadalajara, Zapopan, Tlaquepaque, Tonala, and Tlajomulco. Has that changed? and what are the additional three? edit....I found the answer to my question, as it now includes El Salto, Juanacatlan, and Ixtlahuacan, according to Wikipidea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Regards RV's comment I believe the new Presidente has stated he is going to investigate the possibility of becoming part of the Greater Guadalajara area. I think this would be a good topic for a separate thread here. Feel free to not participate in it. If that is what you call a "snarky" comment?....If so, I will determine if I want to waste my own time and breath without your advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TioBob Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 If that is what you call a "snarky" comment?....If so, I will determine if I want to waste my own time and breath without your advice. No I'd say your post I quoted was pretty snarky. Really if you don't find value in a thread, it is OK to just ignore it. Your comment added nothing to the discussion and was disrespectful to the other participants by stating like it was a fact their posts were nothing but a waste of time and breath. No it is not, it is your opinion only. Others may not share that opinion. Core to having a civil discussion is respecting the opinions of others even when you don't agree. Although the question about whether Ajijic could set up on its own has been covered pretty well, there's a lot of related information coming out of this thread that many of us find of interest. The original question was a good one, it was answered and it opened up the opportunity for better understanding the structure of local government here. I'm simply telling you that if you don't like the discussion or find no value in it, just ignore the thread and move on. When it reaches the point where most have come to the same conclusion, threads usually stop on their own volition. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 The Greater Guadalajara Metropolitan Area is just a census-designated area, not a unit of government. All the eight municipios within it still have their municipal governments. If that is the case, why would the new Presidente raise the possibility of joining the greater GDL Metropolitan Area? I can't cite a reference but I have a recollection of seeing somewhere that the municipalities in a greater metro area district may have some access to additional Federal funds and grants targeted at the metro areas. That may be why the new Presidente is interested in pursuing this possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 This thread is an absolute waste of time and breath..... ....as far as achieving or promoting, independent municipio status for Ajijic. I hope my rewording makes you feel better Mainecoons. It is strictly my opinion and you can have any opinion you want and I won't interfere with your right to say it. (not that I could, or even if I could). "you seem to have a problem respecting the opinions and posts others" Your opinion, no matter what is, isn't any problem for me. I took my view concerning an issue, you for some reason, are attacking me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moderator-2 Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Your original wording was disrespectful to the other posters. Thanks for changing it. If you preface posts like that with "In my opinion..." it will help avoid future misunderstandings. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryB Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 one needs to add the PRI and green party votes together as they were consolidated for this election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcelonaman Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 what would the benefits be of this idea, if it were possible? does this idea co exist with the idea of becoming a pueblo magico that was the long term intention of the current ajijic administration ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbviajero Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Hector and I have made many trips to Guadalajara and are developing positive relationships with state officials. Who knows what may come with the next administration. Please know that it was Ajijic that swung the vote for PRI and state officials are aware and grateful, especially after losing Guad and the surrounding area. Ajijic is their shining victory. Hopefully soon we'll begin to see how grateful they can be? Swinging the vote for the PRI doesn't seem like anything I would boast about,they are a despicable political party with a dismal 80 year record of over the top corruption.I can't think of a single organization that has done more harm to Mexico and Mexicans than the PRI. At least in Guadalajara the voters are getting educated and sent the PAN and PRI a message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryB Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 As despicable as they may all be, they can either help or harm. Without party support , it is very difficult accomplishing anything. Even with their support it is almost impossible, i.e. the free dental clinic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 It would have been interesting to see if MC brought any real change and cleaner government to Chapala. I guess we'll have to just watch from afar and see what they do in GDL. I think what you are saying, Harry, is that "politics is the art of the possible." Correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Harry What other village or town is independent in Jalisco and what does that really mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbviajero Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 As despicable as they may all be, they can either help or harm. Given the PRI's long and miserable track record I would bet on the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcscats Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Drift Joining Guad seems like a no brainer to me for lakeside and the lake. They might actually have the political clout to protect the lake. Alas no matter how many of us march for the lake it does absolutely nothing long term other than some talk from politicos. Guad in past has worked towards the lakes benefit two time according to what I heard. The amount of water Guad uses is not an issue but the dams which are out of our hands as lakeside folk but not for Guad if they used the influence in Mexico City. Alas we by ourselves here have no clout at all. Locals completely disagree with me on this issue in many cases but I see no alternative unless something changes. We might have a great year for rain this year but the history of the lake says the lake will drop again and we will need some moderation of the dams around the lake for the lakes sake. Guad may be the lakes answer not the lakes problem. Being part of Guad might also solve some of our local money distribution problems as we would have someplace to go to complain which we don't have now really. Our new mayor and time will tell. I will try to be open minded and see what happens with local PRI government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Exactly. All the data show the irrigators are the problem and we have no clout to deal with them. Good post LCScats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonkatoy Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Citizens of Ajijic, how about a onetime special assessment of say 5000 pesos per household and for repairs and upgrades. Taxes are very low now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 over my dead body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 over my dead body. Mine, too. And you'd assess all households the same amount? Give this one some in depth thought, por favor, Tonkatoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVGRINGO Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Tonkatoy may be forgiven for thinking in NoB terms, but should realize that, even there, he might be up for a ride on a rail. Tar and feathers, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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