Jreboll Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 Jan 1973 - Jan 2024 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Applies to a lot of things these days. 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBee Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 Yesterday I was reading an article in the "Tribune de Geneve" covering the yearly hot air balloon competition taking place in Chateau d'Oex. This is a ski resort in Switzerland which I have used many times in my youth. The pictures blew me away as there was no snow. Found a website that gives the snow conditions and it stated all installations closed. Darn these theories are really killing the ski season..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 If a ski resort does not have extensive snow making capabilities, in this day and age, they are dead in the water. Blue Mountain in Ontario does but the season is shorter. Whistler/Blackcomb in BC has the most extensive snow making equipment in North America. I don't know how long the season is now but, in the past, I have skiied it from November 15th to the May long weekend. For sure, you were only skiing the top half of the mountain in May. Then played golf in the afternoon at the bottom. I watched the webcams for both just now. Both resorts are also summer destinations with golf courses and swimming. Ah, the good ole days! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dixonge Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 https://ski-resort-stats.com/snow-history/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ferret Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Ski resorts don't make any money in the winter if there's no snow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jreboll Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Oh my God! Who is paying nature to do all this? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Jreboll said: Oh my God! Who is paying nature to do all this? ,,, “In America and around the globe governments have created a multi-billion dollar Climate Change Industrial Complex.” And then I added: “A lot of people are getting really, really rich off of the climate change industry.” According to a recent report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, “Federal funding for climate change research, technology, international assistance, and adaptation has increased from $2.4 billion in 1993 to $11.6 billion in 2014, with an additional $26.1 billion for climate change programs and activities provided by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009.” Lots of money out there to support the narrative. Not so much for the skeptics. BTW have you organized your demonstrations in Cd. Mx at the Chinese and Indian embassies yet? Inquiring minds want to know. 😀 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jreboll Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 That is the basis of the whole capitalist system. Seeing where the demand is and capitalizing on it. Your needs and my needs are making some greedy capitalist rich. You destroy that system and we all suffer. You think that by declaring the profit motive behind this movement you will sow doubt and skepticism and make us not want to activate awareness of the problems before us? 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Nice rant, totally irrelevant to the point I was making, namely that governments with an agenda are pushing billions into mostly one side of the climate debate and the guys doing the "research" know full well where their bread is buttered and what the desired output is. This skewing of scientific research does not make for good science, regardless of the topic. One of the realities you are conveniently forgetful of is those "socialist" and communist countries have seriously dirty economies, China being Exhibit 1. As those folks are busy throwing up coal fired power plants in far greater numbers than exist on this side of the pond I am disappointed in your lack of response to my question as to when you and the other true believers will carry the crusade to the doors of the embassies of communist China and socialist India. Unfortunately for all of us, China isn't really all that socialist now so they have a lot more money to practice mischief around the world. In truth, China is now more of a fascist state where one is allowed to make obscene amounts of money in "private" enterprises loaded with starving workers so long as one does what the state tells he/she to do geopolitically. Hence they now have some serious billionaire types running around to go with their still grinding poverty of the working class. So don't forget to give them Hell about their capitalism along with their carbon when you go. 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 It is better to lead by example than lay blame. Most of us are opposed to child labour as well but ALL developing countries have gone through that scenario and we have learned and rectified it. You can say you want NO child labour but does the child starve if it doesn't work? Lots of complexities in this world that need time to be worked out. Poco a poco un dia por un dia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jreboll Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 MC, You’re making yourself out to being omniscient, able to discern good science from bad, able to understand what government agendas are invalid and other realities of life. You’re pushing your head further and further into the sand. Reality is but a distant memory for you. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEWMtnMama Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Let's look at who profits most from denying climate change shall we? The major petroleum companies made record profits in 2022 and 2023. They are the ones funding the science denyiers. So you are absolutely right - follow the money. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgo lady Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 On 1/17/2024 at 8:19 PM, RickS said: I'm wondering when a Moderator will inform him that his Political posts are not allowed. Seems to only happen to those posts / posters he does not agree with. And he is adding politics into this thread himself on page 4. Do as I say, not as I do.....????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 On 1/28/2024 at 1:23 PM, virgo lady said: Seems to only happen to those posts / posters he does not agree with. And he is adding politics into this thread himself on page 4. Do as I say, not as I do.....????? Seems to me you don't understand the difference between politics and a simple statement of fact backed up by a citation that governments are spending a ton of money in support of the global climate change narrative. Nor is it politics to point out that maybe this kind of lopsided science spending doesn't make for good science. And the fact oil companies make money is irrelevant to what the governments are spending money on, including the money they raise from said oil companies in the form of taxation. Nice logical fallacy there Mountain Momma. This "politics" accusation is basically nothing more than "I don't like your opinion" so I'm going to make false accusations. It shouldn't be long before "racist" is trotted out either. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 It took you two weeks to come up with that reply? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, Ferret said: It took you two weeks to come up with that reply? Last post here before mine was Sunday. Three days ago. Quote Posted Sunday at 01:23 PM Help with the calendar and math anyone? 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Part and parcel of Rick's post from the 17th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Mainecoons said: Seems to me you don't understand the difference between politics and a simple statement of fact backed up by a citation that governments are spending a ton of money in support of the global climate change narrative. Nor is it politics to point out that maybe this kind of lopsided science spending doesn't make for good science. And the fact oil companies make money is irrelevant to what the governments are spending money on, including the money they raise from said oil companies in the form of taxation. Nice logical fallacy there Mountain Momma. This "politics" accusation is basically nothing more than "I don't like your opinion" so I'm going to make false accusations. It shouldn't be long before "racist" is trotted out either. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-war-on-woke-capital-is-backfiring/ar-BB1hxI3A?cvid=18ab6af59312455088b82cd4ce0fbd3d&ei=81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgo lady Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, Ferret said: It took you two weeks to come up with that reply? And he sent me a nasty PM with a mock picture of Biden too. Not a well person IMHO. Likely should be removed as a "Moderator" of this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgo lady Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 On 1/27/2024 at 2:30 PM, Mainecoons said: Nice rant, totally irrelevant to the point I was making, namely that governments with an agenda are pushing billions into mostly one side of the climate debate and the guys doing the "research" know full well where their bread is buttered and what the desired output is. This skewing of scientific research does not make for good science, regardless of the topic. One of the realities you are conveniently forgetful of is those "socialist" and communist countries have seriously dirty economies, China being Exhibit 1. As those folks are busy throwing up coal fired power plants in far greater numbers than exist on this side of the pond I am disappointed in your lack of response to my question as to when you and the other true believers will carry the crusade to the doors of the embassies of communist China and socialist India. Unfortunately for all of us, China isn't really all that socialist now so they have a lot more money to practice mischief around the world. In truth, China is now more of a fascist state where one is allowed to make obscene amounts of money in "private" enterprises loaded with starving workers so long as one does what the state tells he/she to do geopolitically. Hence they now have some serious billionaire types running around to go with their still grinding poverty of the working class. So don't forget to give them Hell about their capitalism along with their carbon when you go. 😄 So when he posts an opinion, it is a "fact"....and of course not political.....when others do, he immediately removes their comments and suspends them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, virgo lady said: So when he posts an opinion, it is a "fact"....and of course not political.....when others do, he immediately removes their comments and suspends them. Please find the sentence in the post you quoted where the word "fact' is used. There are credible references for most of what I posted, like this: https://phys.org/news/2021-04-china-environmental-world-biggest-polluter.html If you want more, please PM me. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgo lady Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 5 hours ago, Mainecoons said: Seems to me you don't understand the difference between politics and a simple statement of fact backed Clear enough? Perhaps you missed your true calling? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, virgo lady said: And he sent me a nasty PM with a mock picture of Biden too. Not a well person IMHO. Likely should be removed as a "Moderator" of this board. I sent you a graphic example of what constitutes real politics versus a difference of opinion over how real science is generated. To help you with your confusion without engaging in politics on the open board. OK I knew full well you wouldn't like it much but it does serve to illustrate rather vividly the difference between what you label as politics in an attempt to stifle opinions you don't like, versus the real thing. Knowing your political inclinations, I indulged in a little fun there, sorry. Anyone else would like to see the "nasty" picture, let me know and I'll PM it to you. It's pretty clear some of us have different ideas as to what constitutes "nasty" as well. BTW, this sure feels like a personal attack. Quote Not a well person IMHO. Likely should be removed as a "Moderator" of this board. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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