RickS Posted December 21, 2023 Report Share Posted December 21, 2023 It's been a while since I drove OUT of Mexico through Torreon. Last time the road from Zacatecas up to Torreon was in bad repair. Also somewhat the cuota north of Torreon. Anybody gone north that route in the last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Shrall Posted December 23, 2023 Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 Hwy 54 from Zacatecas to Saltillo was a disaster a few weeks ago. The road was full of potholes and cracks. The road from AGS to Zacatecas was also in a state of disrepair so my guess would be the road heading to Torreon would be similar. The cuotas on the AGS route to Laredo look like they haven’t had any maintenance for a while. After 10 years or more it’s time to return to the SLP route. I wonder who is responsible for cuota maintenance, state or federal? It seems like money has been diverted from road maintenance to some other cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted December 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 Thanks John.... but what cuotas are there on the 'AGS route to Laredo'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Shrall Posted December 23, 2023 Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 Sections both north and south of AGS are toll roads with a portion of the new bypass also a toll road. The bypass cuota part is very smooth since it’s pretty new. Check it again in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted December 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2023 Oh, OK, yes. I misread as was 'envisioning' a cuota from Aguas up towards Laredo, not just those pieces that have always been there north and south a bit of AGS. Haven't had a chance to take the 'new' west cuota around AGS.... long needed (but I never really minded driving straight through). Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiko Posted December 24, 2023 Report Share Posted December 24, 2023 Pot holes or Trucks, Aquascalientes or Carr. 57? Pick your poison. Remember little or no cell service across the mid section of the Zac to Concepcion del Oro route for about an hour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted December 28, 2023 Report Share Posted December 28, 2023 On 12/23/2023 at 8:05 AM, John Shrall said: Hwy 54 from Zacatecas to Saltillo was a disaster a few weeks ago. The road was full of potholes and cracks. The road from AGS to Zacatecas was also in a state of disrepair so my guess would be the road heading to Torreon would be similar. The cuotas on the AGS route to Laredo look like they haven’t had any maintenance for a while. After 10 years or more it’s time to return to the SLP route. I wonder who is responsible for cuota maintenance, state or federal? It seems like money has been diverted from road maintenance to some other cause. You would be correct. Whether toll or free, it seems in Zacatecas all the roads are beaten to death by the truck traffic. Durango has done some work on 45 but it is still pretty poor. But the worst has to be north of Chihuahua. Hard to describe how bad that road is until you get to the toll part. We used to keep an RV in Las Cruces NM but finally decided that drive just wasn't worth it. Beats me how a country with such bad roads is going to become a near shoring success. Maybe if all the factories are right on the U.S. border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jreboll Posted December 28, 2023 Report Share Posted December 28, 2023 It used to be that Mexico had very good roads everywhere you went. In the 1970s we did a lot of adventure driving and even out of the way places had good roads. Then the toll roads came into being and the government started ignoring the road system and allowed the investor owned toll roads to take over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted December 28, 2023 Report Share Posted December 28, 2023 I think the problem is also all the often overloaded and massive increase in truck traffic with NAFTA.. The roads in this country just aren't built for the pounding they deliver and that includes for the most part the Cuotas as well. Clearly the maintenance and quality of construction is far below that necessary for a decent road system now. Other than the governor of Jalisco who will be stepping down next year I don't hear any of the Mexican politicians giving any indication they know how bad the roads are. There just doesn't seem to be any serious national level recognition of the need for better roads even as car ownership increases rapidly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usvetsinmexico Posted December 28, 2023 Report Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Mainecoons said: You would be correct. Whether toll or free, it seems in Zacatecas all the roads are beaten to death by the truck traffic. Durango has done some work on 45 but it is still pretty poor. But the worst has to be north of Chihuahua. Hard to describe how bad that road is until you get to the toll part. We used to keep an RV in Las Cruces NM but finally decided that drive just wasn't worth it. Beats me how a country with such bad roads is going to become a near shoring success. Maybe if all the factories are right on the U.S. border. I read an article that said these companies will be paying close too 2 billion on road improvements when they start building the new factories. Most all if the business sites i read are saying mexico will be the new china not india. Waiting to see if they are right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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