ea93105 Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 I'm going to replace all the rusty galvanized pipes during a remodel, what should I replace them with ? ABS plastic tubing. copper, or is PEX flexible tubing an option here now, ? Thanks for any input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony321 Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Anderson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha1 Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 hours ago, ea93105 said: I'm going to replace all the rusty galvanized pipes during a remodel, what should I replace them with ? ABS plastic tubing. copper, or is PEX flexible tubing an option here now, ? Thanks for any input. Do the gas lines also I used http://www.durman.com.mx/producto/119/1/14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony321 Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 The major drawback with cooper is cost. I am remodeling an unfinish house. I am running cooper piping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha1 Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tony321 said: The major drawback with cooper is cost. I am remodeling an unfinish house. I am running cooper piping. Is There A Problem With Embedding Copper Tube In Concrete? https://www.copper.org/applications/plumbing/techcorner/problem_embedding_copper_concrete.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomgates Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Has to be the right kind of cement. I forget which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony321 Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 In my case, a combination of running the new cooper pipe along the outside ground , walls and roof. None inside floors. Leaks do happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafterbr Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 If you can get it, pex is the way to go. This is what all the plumbers I know of in my area of the states is using. It is very easy to use, you just need a cutter and ratchet to apply the fittings. It even comes in color's so you can tell the hot water line from the cold water line. No soldering and no corrosion like with copper. Life expectancy of the pex is also very good better than the copper. Problem with pcv is sometimes the glue will wind up leting it leak or turn lose on you. I know my plumber who sometimes uses pcv has gone to a new cleaner and glue and this seems to do a better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ea93105 Posted October 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Thanks for the replies I think I found the tubing I'm going to use at a Fereteria hidden in Chapala behind Soriana. They have thick wall plastic tubing for water which is somewhat flexible. Comes in four different varieties, cold, hot, super and super hot ( all blue color) and they also have a rust colored one which has threading. The blue ones need to be melted to connections They also have the heavy duty black water/ septic pipes which nobody else seems to carry.( rust colored ABS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southland Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 Do you mean across the highway from Soriana, or do you mean back east and north of Soriana on the same side of Soriana? Thank you. Have a project upcoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ea93105 Posted October 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 Going there soon again, its hard to find/explain. I think its called Ferreteria Cabrera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Solar Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 9:11 AM, ea93105 said: I'm going to replace all the rusty galvanized pipes during a remodel, what should I replace them with ? ABS plastic tubing. copper, or is PEX flexible tubing an option here now, ? Thanks for any input. Highly recommend the TuboPlus green pipe for water systems, it is a double walled co-polymer pipe produced in MX by RotoPlas under license from the German inventors many years ago. Available in all sizes both residential and commercial / industrial. It is thermo-fused together, pretty much indestructible, leak-proof, great for both high pressure and high temp (rated to 190 F) and has some built-in insulating qualities due to the double walled design. About the same price as copper and there are compatible parts to mate it with most existing threaded pipe systems. https://distribuidornacional.com/Item/TuberiarotoplasTuboplusHidraulico It is compatible with the blue pipe, which is a less expensive version of the TuboPlus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southland Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 Yes, it's north and east of Soriana. Up on Pescadores about a block from Alacranes. http://chapala.linkbyme.com.mx/j-jesus-cabrera-jimenez-if5671292/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrbower Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 Keep in mind that PVC is not legal for pressure/potable water systems anywhere in the US anymore. Pex type tubing, copper, or CPVC are all legal. PVC is only used for drain, vent, and irrigation applications. Galvanized has not been legal for clean water applications for many years either. But both are still used frequently in Mexico. They also still connect copper threaded fittings directly to galvanized which is also dangerous because it will cause rust and leaks and is also illegal in the US. Also copper is not recommended for gas, and in some cases banned, but they use it here for that as well. I don't think there is such a thing as a licensed plumber or an inspector with enforcement powers here so buyer beware. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utilitus Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 Here's a nice generic 17 min. video comparing Cu, CPVC and Pex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywtnOq1ExqQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ea93105 Posted October 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 3 hours ago, southland said: Yes, it's north and east of Soriana. Up on Pescadores about a block from Alacranes. http://chapala.linkbyme.com.mx/j-jesus-cabrera-jimenez-if5671292/ Pescadores #48 Great prices too. They quoted 280 pesos for a section of orange septic pipe vs 450 in Ajijic. 5000 liter Rotoplas tank $11,400 vs 14,200 at another ferreteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ea93105 Posted October 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 On 10/23/2018 at 9:20 AM, Go Solar said: Highly recommend the TuboPlus green pipe for water systems, it is a double walled co-polymer pipe produced in MX by RotoPlas under license from the German inventors many years ago. Available in all sizes both residential and commercial / industrial. It is thermo-fused together, pretty much indestructible, leak-proof, great for both high pressure and high temp (rated to 190 F) and has some built-in insulating qualities due to the double walled design. About the same price as copper and there are compatible parts to mate it with most existing threaded pipe systems. https://distribuidornacional.com/Item/TuberiarotoplasTuboplusHidraulico It is compatible with the blue pipe, which is a less expensive version of the TuboPlus. Nice !. I'll probably go with the blue piping since it's stocked locally. My only concern is the melting tool and whether it will be hard to make connections in tight spaces Update. Trip to home depot today, they have the green TuboPlus as well as PEX and many other new options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Solar Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 The green Tubo Plus is also available locally at several places. The thermo melting tool, as well. Re: install: The pipe has some flex in it, and unlike copper, where you typically fit everything together and then solder all the joints, you build and join this as you go along. Like cheating a maze, you can start in the endpoint / hardest to reach spot, and work outward.....! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha1 Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 11:52 AM, Tony321 said: In my case, a combination of running the new cooper pipe along the outside ground , walls and roof. None inside floors. Leaks do happen. Smart move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solajijic Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 I just replumbed a whole house using the Tubo Plus and it worked well with the tool and watching the guys it took only 3 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ea93105 Posted October 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/23/2018 at 9:14 PM, Go Solar said: The green Tubo Plus is also available locally at several places. The thermo melting tool, as well. Re: install: The pipe has some flex in it, and unlike copper, where you typically fit everything together and then solder all the joints, you build and join this as you go along. Like cheating a maze, you can start in the endpoint / hardest to reach spot, and work outward.....! 😉 Thanks for the tip, who carries TuboPlus around here and is it safe for boiler temperatures ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Solar Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 Our installers source it in Ixtlahuacan as that store has the full range of sizes and all fittings, plus the thermo-tool. There are also stores in both Chapala and Ajijic that stock it. Yes, safe for boilers, it is rated at 190 F +, and most gas boilers run at 140 F, and typical solar hot water temps are in the 150 to 160 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Solar Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 In Ajijic, Casa de Plomero also has it in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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