geeser Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Just this morning received from Telmex an email notifying me that they had padded my bill with phantom charges. We notify you hired Inbursa service Vidatel In your next receipts, Telmex charged $ 49.50 VAT included by insurance Vidatel concept in your line Telmex 3,767,662,xxx. Failure to recognize this operation please communicate to the customer service line of INBURSA: 01800 4624 636 For more information click here This email is a notification of receipt third party fees Telmex Telmex has done this third party billing before. I called the number and said I would like to make changes on my phone service and was told I would hav eto come in and bring identification and an old bill. Then I got told the woman it was about the fraudulent charges on my bill billed through their IMBURSA for Vidatel insurance they asked me to hold and finally Ricardo (sounded like that old Ricardo that used to be on the desk) came on the line. He explained it was for the insurance I had added. I told him I wanted to come n and pick up the signed authorization for this addition since I had authorized no such thing. He expained that Karla had authorized the addition of insurance. I told him there was on Karla on my account. I asked him to remove the charges. I asked Ricardo to pull the file and I would be by to pick up the signed authorization so I could get to the bottom of this scam. He explained that they had NO such authorization in their files. That they just trusted Karla over the phone. I reminded him that they require passport photo ID to change anything on my bill. I asked for the photo copy of Karla's passport so I could find her and put charges against her. He said they didn't have any ID on Karla. The next time you go in to check on your bill or service and they demand ID just tell them Karla sent you! This is an old scam and was used in the USA years ago by utility companies doing "third party" billing. The charges are kept small enough that you don't catch them. The Utility companies got caught adding charges that over time amounted to hundreds of millions and had to refund it and cease and desist. Most states stopped all third party billing scams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquipure Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 I had this "insurance" refunded about a year ago. All was well till July bill and it was back. You have to pay it before they will issue a credit. I am waiting for the August bill to see the credit. A lot of make work for the office staff..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelsZ4 Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 How can doing something that's legal be a scam...?.. It may not be ethical but it's not a scam... They don't need your authorization to add the charge to your bill. They did the same thing in the US and Canada years ago, it's wasn't until the Goverment banned the practice that it stopped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La-de-di Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 2 hours ago, TelsZ4 said: How can doing something that's legal be a scam...?.. It may not be ethical but it's not a scam... They don't need your authorization to add the charge to your bill. They did the same thing in the US and Canada years ago, it's wasn't until the Goverment banned the practice that it stopped It's called negative option billing and large companies in Canada were doing it until, as TelsZ4 says, the government put an end to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 The only unknown item I see on my latest bill is IEPS 3% for 10.62. Does anyone know what that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 IEPS SAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 22 minutes ago, AngusMactavish said: IEPS SAT Thanks. So IEPS is a supposedly a tax to combat obesity. On things like flavored drinks and high calories foods. You have to wonder how phones are involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest English Rose Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just a few to many abbreviations these days.........what is IPES and SAT? Thx. TTFN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, English Rose said: Just a few to many abbreviations these days.........what is IPES and SAT? Thx. TTFN Click on the posted links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 10 hours ago, TelsZ4 said: How can doing something that's legal be a scam...?.. It may not be ethical but it's not a scam... They don't need your authorization to add the charge to your bill. They did the same thing in the US and Canada years ago, it's wasn't until the Goverment banned the practice that it stopped There are many, many, many scams that are perfectly legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 I too received an email yesterday informing me of this additional charge of $49.50 for some unknown service I never signed up for. I just called Telmex to cancel the "service" and was given another number (800-712-0900) to call and was assured it was cancelled (given a cancellation number) and that there would be no additional charge on my Telmex bill. I've read about people who have paid these charges for years without knowing about them. At least there was an email to give me a heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 On 7/19/2017 at 4:24 PM, AngusMactavish said: IEPS SAT Thanks. So IEPS is a supposedly a tax to combat obesity. On things like flavored drinks and high calories foods. You have to wonder how phones are involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 I just got my Telmex August bill and there is the Seguro Vidatel charge of 49.50 on it. Grrrr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeser Posted August 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 On 7/19/2017 at 4:48 PM, cedros said: Thanks. So IEPS is a supposedly a tax to combat obesity. On things like flavored drinks and high calories foods. You have to wonder how phones are involved. Did you use your telephone to order any soft drinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeser Posted August 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 On 7/19/2017 at 11:21 AM, TelsZ4 said: How can doing something that's legal be a scam...?.. It may not be ethical but it's not a scam... They don't need your authorization to add the charge to your bill. They did the same thing in the US and Canada years ago, it's wasn't until the Goverment banned the practice that it stopped It is the same thing Walmart does, billing for items you did not buy. Last Tuesday it was red delicious @ 19.90 pesos billed as galas 44.90. They explained it was just a mistake. I explained that if it were a mistake, half the time it would be in the customers favor and half the time it would benefit Walmart. I have never heard of it being in the customers favor at Walmart. This is a scam but it is not illegal in Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 58 minutes ago, geeser said: Did you use your telephone to order any soft drinks? Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 So can both the IEPS and Seguro be disputed? Someone said you had to pay the seguro first and then get a credit. That seems ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 I've been to the Telmex office so I can answer my question above. You have to pay the IEPS. Oscar at Telmex quickly deleted the Seguro from my bill. No need to pay it first and then get a credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgogirl Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 I do not have TELMEX as there are "not enough lines to serve my neighborhood". There were supposed to be more come this January. And I was supposed to be on some fictitious mysterious list waiting for a line. So when I read this, I as so glad that I really don't have them in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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