bobby brown

1 hour ago, johanson said:

I just got back from a great Christmas eve dinner, in West Ajijic attended by 6 of us where even a 7 year old was tri-lingual. German, Mexican Spanish, and American English. We all had a great time. Please folks, this is Christmas Eve. I want to wish you all a very Merry Christmas and I choose not to make negative comments on what I just read above.

Again let us all have a great Christmas weekend both in person and here where one can post.

I say again MAY YOU ALL HAVE A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

THX; and the same to you and yours--

Just now, bobby brown said:

Let's keep beating this dead horse--This Covid fraud deserves it--this fiasco should never happen again-!! stabbing children, babies, the unborn--pure insanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we all are guinea pigs--!!!!  All the test animals died--Phizer says "close enough" we're good to go.

6 hours ago, Tingting said:

Oh, I wish I had some emoticons left to give you! I love that if certain folks agree with a posting, it's fair media and if they disagree, it's "right-wing" whatever -- ignoring those who sit in the middle, sometimes heavy left, sometimes heavy right. I wonder how many of those over 65 were actually suffering from other diseases/conditions and the 'Rona was that final straw (like several of my sister's in-law relatives)? Nope, that doesn't match the script that's already been written.

(Edited to add this) And to those that think the unvax should not be admitted into hospitals, REALLY? Since when do you become the arbiter of who is "worthy" of treatment and who is not? This alone frightens the hell out of me.

I really wish the mod would close down these postings. We've beaten it to death and nothing changes. Give info of where shots are available; give info about whether or not kids are back in school or what the latest regulations are, but shut this down when it becomes personal. And for some, it always becomes personal.

Let's keep beating this dead horse--This Covid fraud deserves it--this fiasco should never happen again-!! stabbing children, babies, the unborn--pure insanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6 hours ago, RickS said:

Well I disagree that MC, because he is a Moderator, should not be able to Post under his name. BUT we all should continue to note that most of his Posts are far right and often use discreditied sources. And are anti-scientist, anti-government, anti vax and pretty much anti everything.

Take it for what it is worth.... which to me is NOT MUCH!.... call him out if you wish because THAT is your right. Otherwise a long time ago I quit putting any credibility into his Posts.  YMMV

 

 

Well , you have a lot of "anties--but I'm anti gov't--one can't trust the bastards !

7 hours ago, oregontochapala said:

It doesn't matter what I think or feel or for that matter what other people think or feel about Covid. I have to live with my choices as do we all.

What is at issue here for me is that this thread was started by a moderator, has been filled with rather personal attacks by said moderator (and others), and was not shut down by ANY moderator. 

The only purpose this and other threads like it serve is to drive wedges among community members, many of whom have left our country of origin because there is such discord among people that life is f***ing miserable there.

Please. We live in a delightful place and most of us are seeking peace in our final years. Will someone with a sense of decency step in and step up and stop the posting of this type of divisive thread and make this one disappear? Thank you.

Don't rush it---peace will come soon enough--DEATH-

9 hours ago, Bisbee Gal said:

All these folks can continue to enter hospitals, AS LONG AS THEY ARE VACCINATED.  Right now many surgeries and treatments such as chemo are being DELAYED thanks to the hospitals being full of UNvaxed.  

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-covid-surge-shows-overwhelming-cost-of-being-unvaccinated-america/

We all make poor choices--some worst than others--nobody is perfect--" He who is without sin cast the first stone".

7 hours ago, gringal said:

Have you folks noticed how frequently the "news sources" are not only highly biased, but often put forth plain old untruths?  What's with that?  So easy to check, and I doubt it's fooling most people reading here.

follow the money--

7 hours ago, gringal said:

Have you folks noticed how frequently the "news sources" are not only highly biased, but often put forth plain old untruths?  What's with that?  So easy to check, and I doubt it's fooling most people reading here.

With many people-"truth" is defined with their prejudices .

9 hours ago, Mainecoons said:

I agree.  Being around the jabbed is dangerous for us and hospitals have done an outstanding job, particularly NOB, of killing their patients by not using proven early treatments.

 

Don't blame the hospitals--they have their orders and financial incentives---YA; sig heil ! sig heil !

9 hours ago, Mostlylost said:

Agreed but we need to add to the list others who made poor choices

Obese people because they chose to over eat.

Type 2 diabetics  because they chose a poor diet. 

Possibly heart patients if they chose a diet with high cholesterol.

Possibly those over 80 because of limited life expectancy.

Anyone who had Covid before because they survived it the first time.

Let's add those who used poor judgement and caused an injury or accident. Why treat them? 

The list goes on......

 

 

 

 

 

 

These attacks on the people who made poor decisions is cruel ; they will suffer severely  without other people pilling on ..

9 hours ago, mudgirl said:

Obviously the higher the vaccination rate, the higher the number of breakthrough infections there would be among the vaccinated, but obviously you aren't capable of that logical, apparent conclusion.

If 100% of the population is vaccinated, of course infections would show that 100% of cases were among the vaccinated. 

Duh.

Finally some sanity is breaking out---contagious I hope!

9 hours ago, Mainecoons said:

HMMM, zat so.  Maybe you jabees are a hazard for the rest of us.

Wed Dec 22, 2021 - 7:02 pm EST

COPENHAGEN, Denmark (LifeSiteNews) – Virtually all Omicron cases in Denmark have been reported in vaccinated people, most of them “fully vaccinated,” new data from the Danish government revealed.

79 percent of Danes infected with Omicron by December 15 were fully jabbed, according to a report released Tuesday by the Statens Serum Institut (SSI), a Danish health ministry that tracks COVID-19 variants. The double-vaccinated accounted for more than 14,000 of 17,767 Omicron infections recorded in Denmark since the country’s first reported case on November 22.Those with a booster shot made up another 10.6 percent of cases of the new variant, and people with one jab were an additional 1.8 percent. The unvaccinated – around one-fifth of the Danish population – were just 8.5 percent of Omicron infections.

Statens Serum Institut

Vaccinated people also dominated cases of other COVID-19 strains. More than three-quarters of Danes who came down with Delta or another variant besides Omicron between November 22 and December 15 had at least one shot, according to the SSI data, and 73 percent were fully jabbed or boosted.

In Denmark, 77.6 percent of the population was “fully vaccinated” as of Sunday, including 35 percent of residents who have had a third dose since the Scandinavian country began rolling out boosters for the general public last month.

Stunning numbers from Denmark:

56% double vaccinated are catching 65% of “other variants” & 79% of Omicron

Most vulnerable group to Omicron BY FAR

25% boosted still catch 10% of Omicron cases, while unvaccinated catch 8.5%

This is worse than vaccine failure. This is damage. pic.twitter.com/ckEXv3iff3

— William Makis MD (@MakisMD) December 20, 2021

 

Denmark currently has one of the top infection rates in the world and the second highest Omicron rate in Europe, behind the U.K., which has similar vaccination levels and an even higher booster rate.

Since arriving in Denmark in late November, Omicron has spread rapidly through the vaccinated, with infections doubling every few days.

The result has been an unprecedented case surge, far outpacing last winter – before the vaccination drive began – when daily cases peaked at around 5,000. Denmark blew past that record this month, reporting 13,000 new infections on Tuesday, with a seven-day average of nearly 10,000.

Daily infections are expected to reach 27,000 within days and continue climbing into January. Health minister Magnus Heunicke confirmed Tuesday that Omicron is now Denmark’s dominant strain.

 

Danish government researchers have acknowledged that vaccination offers effectively no protection against catching Omicron, and some analyses indicate that it actually heightens the risk of contracting the variant. Experts have also warned that a sharp rise in breakthrough cases could point to “original antigenic sin,” which occurs when vaccination causes an inability to mount an effective immune reaction to a variant of a virus, resulting in worse health outcomes for the vaccinated.

Ya think the jab don't work?--logical conclusion? -- never worry; doctor, and I use that title loosely,  Fuchi will come up with some B.S. excuse---HA

9 hours ago, Bisbee Gal said:

The unvaxed should not be allowed in hospitals.  Period.  

Sig Heil  !!!!!   Sig Heil !!!!---YA!;  to the gas chambers , gulag, concentration camps, labor camps --" mas graves "---history is filled with kind of mentality--one can find fault with anyone---

9 hours ago, Jreboll said:

Nature has a way of weeding out the weak, the infirm, the ignorant and clueless. Those living in fear or who are just cautious seem to survive and thrive. 

as for me it is not so much as fear but keeping an eye out for the gov't--As Pres. Regan said--when the gov't comes a knockin "I'm hear to help you"---run like hell!--As The Chinese great military stratigist Sun Su wrote, " keep your friends close and your enemies closer ".

8 hours ago, Mostlylost said:

Agreed but we need to add to the list others who made poor choices

Obese people because they chose to over eat.

Type 2 diabetics  because they chose a poor diet. 

Possibly heart patients if they chose a diet with high cholesterol.

Possibly those over 80 because of limited life expectancy.

Anyone who had Covid before because they survived it the first time.

Let's add those who used poor judgement and caused an injury or accident. Why treat them? 

The list goes on......

 

 

 

 

 

 

Define unvaxxed ? well in this climate; one could be could be defined as the unvaxxed simply by getting behind on your next jab and the following boosters-- or getting covid within two weeks of your last shot ---"the games people play"---what a trap--

2 minutes ago, MtnMama said:

I wouldn't mind if the anti-vaxxers only hurt themselves - their choice. Unfortunately their Freedums put the rest of the community at a higher risk and that is totally unacceptable.

Whine about mandates all you want, getting vaxxed or getting a swab shoved up your nose every week seems like a fair compromise to me. Keep in mind that Fox "News" required that employees get vaxxed or tested daily. 

Nose jabs?--no--well, if you took the jab, what are you worried about?--you just  admitted the shots don't work--My immune system is rock solid now--I got the covid  two years ago- went to Simi and got a bottle of C and Zinc--I was good to go in three days--I have now natural immunity for life--It is impossible for me to get anyone sick for a virus I don't have--

21 hours ago, Mainecoons said:

Maybe they know something you don't.  Maybe they have noticed that these so called vaccines were offered as the solution only to find the vaccinated get and spread covid and the "vaccines" aren't very effective against the natural evolution of this virus.  Maybe after massive flip flopping some don't find the purveyors of these vaccines very credible.

Maybe they wonder why if these "vaccines" are so safe the casualty list from them has already well exceeded the thresholds for withdrawal followed in the past.  Maybe they wonder why their makers are exempt from being held accountable even for bad batches that hurt people.  

Maybe some should start following the money, notice the 6 major corporations that dominate the "news" NOB are mostly foreign held and their news departments have accepted many millions of dollars from Pfizer and Moderna for advertising.

Maybe some should pay less attention to a bureaucrat "doctor" who has never seen or treated patients and more attention to the thousands of doctors who have and who know covid is treatable.  

In short, maybe some should start to apply the same level of skepticism to this whole covid business they would apply for purchasing routine goods and services.  Buyer beware is even more important when it comes to one's health.

Given the actual inventor of mRNA has warned us about vaccines based on it I wonder if this one will have the same issues.  Nevertheless, you have to admire the brilliance of looking at corona viruses as a whole and addressing a possible vaccine from that perspective.

 

You got a lot of "good" maybes----I think one should ponder if one gets sick and dies from this jab--ones family would be ruined financily--because these drug pushers cannot be sued-who would buy a car with no warranty?

On 12/22/2021 at 12:37 PM, bmh said:

Hopefully it will work so we can go back.to normal in a year or two when they gave enougj vaccines  ..

and sucked the last penny out of the public-

2 hours ago, mudgirl said:

There are appropriate circumstances in which to haggle, and ones where it is not. Haggling is expected when dealing with middle-men like the guys with their briefcases full of mass-produced jewelry preying on tourists. Haggling at a market with people selling the wares they themselves produce is not. 

Many times vendors will drop the price for you if you start to walk away--

3 minutes ago, luvsdawgs said:

Was he a tourist? Not stated.

well a local would never behave like that--at least me--If I didn't have the 5 pesos I would have to just walk away--

Yes, theft--I used to go to garage sales and flea markets--and haggeling over price was have the fun--

11 hours ago, MtnMama said:

At Tuesday Market, I was looking over a vendor's merchandise when a gringo came up and asked the price of an item. She told him it was 105 pesos. He said, "I only have 100 pesos so you'll have to take that", picked up the item and started to walk away. I said in a loud voice, "That's terrible, I'll pay the 5 pesos. She shouldn't have to take a loss just because you're cheap." 

She thanked me and we discussed the fact that she had to raise prices because her costs went up. That 5 pesos was a part of her rather meager profit. 

So, if you can't afford something, don't buy it. Don't be a jerk and make the rest of us look bad.

that tourist was rude-I rarely carry coin; so I would just try to negociate the price down to $100 pesos--or give the vendor a twenty or a fifty and ask for change--

On 12/20/2021 at 10:48 AM, SunFan said:

I just couldn't resist.

With you in the saddle, I can understand the horse's motivation.

SunFan

Yes !!--You must control your animal--you must be the master of your world if you want to survive!!

15 hours ago, Intercasa said:

I break more people out of hospitals than jail.   Hospitals cannot hold people hostage and it is a game we need to play to get people out but some abuse foreigners and others have been stiffed by foreigners.  An easy way to avoid hassles is to get international travel health insurance.  I buy it for the US if I go for a week, it is cheap like $40US and avoids problems.  

Yes I agree---As they say--" hindsight is 20/20--

On 12/20/2021 at 4:47 PM, gringal said:

Daisy, that would be a good suggestion unless there is not enough in their credit card limit to pay this bill.

Then they should stay home-! In the old days people would take their life's "one" vacation - I bet they would have enough money saved up--