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I had bad care from two doctors at Quality Care, but was not even aware of it until I came to NYC. I thought these docs in Mexico were wonderful!


The dermatologist at Quality Care, Danielle, missed two cancers. A malignant melanoma and a basal cell carcinoma. For a year I asked her about these marks on my skin, and she reassured me twice that they were nothing. If I had not gotten medical care in NYC, I would have died from the melanoma. And when I was looking at photos of melanomas, mine was there!! The basal cell was a tiny red mark on my chin which she attributed to my face mask. Unfortunately, it grew so large under the surface that it took over an hour for the surgeon to remove it, and I have a large scar.

I also had a lumbar fusion of L3-L5  (back surgery out of desperation) by Dr. Gabrielle Martinez in 2019 and no pain relief. I just attributed it to bad luck, not anything he did wrong. I consulted the Chief of Spinal Surgery here at NYU in Manhattan. The pins in my back were placed incorrectly during the surgery with angles off 15 degrees. The surgery removed the normal curvature of my spine and my pain has been excruciating for four years. Next week this surgeon at NYU is redoing the surgery and extending it to L2 thru S1.  I have high hopes for resuming a life!

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dr Gabriel Martinez is a shoulder specialist.He did a fabulous job on my shoulder and the one he operated on is better than the other. I have hernia between L4 and L5 and he told me to see a spine specialist and he also told me he did not do that type of surgery.. .I also was told by other specialists here and in France that there wwere 3 out 5 chances that the surgery would help but the resy of the time there is no improvement at best and pain can remain and nothing can be done at worst. I need to do something but I am still shopping around for doctors.

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On 2/12/2023 at 4:31 PM, NEWMtnMama said:

I am sorry for your loss. Just for the record Ladrone misdiagnosed TWO of my dogs and I find there are many better, and cheaper, Vets available Lakeside. 

 

8 hours ago, luvsdawgs said:

Unfortunately Zoe is not the only patient misdiagnosed by this vet, I have heard of and had personal experience with quite a few. When I took a dog to Hospital Arboledas to the Cardiologist  there, I found the medicine given by her to be highly dangerous. In fact, the cardiologist kept asking who prescribed it and stating that it would kill her. I won't take an animal there again. People do because "she is so nice".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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He did a perfect knee replacement on my husband. Too bad he did not tell me in 2019 that he does not do spinal surgery. Because he performed a botched surgery on me. As an RN, I am well aware that these surgeries do not always “work.”  I chose to have the surgery because I was in extreme pain, but I did not expect total relief or really know what to expect in terms of relief. But I also did not expect him to botch my surgery and make my spine worse due to incompetence. If he had performed this surgery in the US, he would be sued for malpractice, because it was done WRONG!!!  I don’t know what kind of orthopedic specialist he claims to be now, but I am glad to hear he is no longer doing harm on people’s spines. I have been suffering for four years due to his incompetence. 
This was indefensible!

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To me surgeons are like any trade artisans and they tend to criticize what was done before

. My husband had spine surgery and he came out ok as he could not stand the pain before the surgery. A few years later he fell and fractured his back but did not have much pain. The new surgeon we saw said that he disapproved from the surgery the doctor did before     but that he put so many screws that these screws helped support the back and for that reason my husband was not in much pain and could heal without any other surgery  so go figure.. 

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How Doctors Think , a book worth reading.

On average, a physician will interrupt a patient describing her symptoms within eighteen seconds. In that short time, many doctors decide on the likely diagnosis and best treatment. Often, decisions made this way are correct, but at crucial moments they can also be wrong—with catastrophic consequences. 

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On 2/12/2023 at 4:31 PM, NEWMtnMama said:

I am sorry for your loss. Just for the record Ladrone misdiagnosed TWO of my dogs and I find there are many better, and cheaper, Vets available Lakeside. 

 

9 hours ago, luvsdawgs said:

Unfortunately Zoe is not the only patient misdiagnosed by this vet, I have heard of and had personal experience with quite a few. When I took a dog to Hospital Arboledas to the Cardiologist  there, I found the medicine given by her to be highly dangerous. In fact, the cardiologist kept asking who prescribed it and stating that it would kill her. I won't take an animal there again. People do because "she is so nice".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 2/12/2023 at 4:31 PM, NEWMtnMama said:

I am sorry for your loss. Just for the record Ladrone misdiagnosed TWO of my dogs and I find there are many better, and cheaper, Vets available Lakeside. 

 

20 hours ago, luvsdawgs said:

Unfortunately Zoe is not the only patient misdiagnosed by this vet, I have heard of and had personal experience with quite a few. When I took a dog to Hospital Arboledas to the Cardiologist  there, I found the medicine given by her to be highly dangerous. In fact, the cardiologist kept asking who prescribed it and stating that it would kill her. I won't take an animal there again. People do because "she is so nice".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Physicians attend medical school to obtain their MD. Then they go into their specialty program, for instance, orthopedics surgery, where they spend years learning and practicing their craft. They are immersed in the CULTURE of their specialty. The culture is taught and absorbed from their professors. In surgery, part of the culture is to imbue a feeling of being godlike, to enable them to perform without fear. It is not a training class sir, it is a culture that enables them to perform. Perhaps, Ibarra, you should read a book on how surgeons think? And actually, this is not directly related to my botched surgery. 

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On 2/12/2023 at 4:31 PM, NEWMtnMama said:

I am sorry for your loss. Just for the record Ladrone misdiagnosed TWO of my dogs and I find there are many better, and cheaper, Vets available Lakeside. 

 

21 hours ago, luvsdawgs said:

Unfortunately Zoe is not the only patient misdiagnosed by this vet, I have heard of and had personal experience with quite a few. When I took a dog to Hospital Arboledas to the Cardiologist  there, I found the medicine given by her to be highly dangerous. In fact, the cardiologist kept asking who prescribed it and stating that it would kill her. I won't take an animal there again. People do because "she is so nice".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Done with this thread. It was meant as a kindly warning. It does not call for debate or snide remarks which are typical of the current expat community. Oh for the days before these late comers added nastiness to the groups. That is why I quit all of them, and now I will sign of permanently again. No more “quoting vets and dogs.” Woof woof. Too bad they cannot read.

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One more comment. 
Dr Hector Briseno (cardiologist) at Quality Care is excellent. As a retired cardiac nurse, I think I am a pretty good judge as I understand the physiology and disease processes. 
However, even with the best in Mexico, they lack technology, and in some cases, knowledge that a first world country has. I am so fortunate to live in Manhattan now, which is known for its top doctors and hospitals in the US. All I can say is, get a second opinion (I did that even here for my upcoming lumbar surgery.) Better yet, come to the US for the serous stuff. 

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I lived most of my adult life in Manhattan. Anyone seeking medical help there runs the chance of meeting up with both good docs and some very bad ones. Bad ones, like good ones, are everywhere. We just have to be as cautious as we can be. That's life (or sometimes death).

I've lived here at Lakeside for over 20 years. Both my husband (now deceased) and I were/are fortunate to have Dr. Hector Briseno as our cardiologist. But we both encountered some godawful physicians here as well as good ones.

Sometimes, I've found, trying to warn someone that they are going to a bad doctor is a waste of breath.

Lexy

 

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I just had a great idea (which will never see the light of day).

What if doctors had to include on their resumes their standing in medical school after graduation. For example: Dr ABC, #1 in class of 450. Or Dr XYZ, #449 in class of 450.

Of course, if practice makes perfect maybe that wouldn't be fair?

Lexy

 

People: The brilliant idea above is me fooling around. I saw a need to point this out.

Lexy

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3 hours ago, Shoshanah said:

One more comment. 
Dr Hector Briseno (cardiologist) at Quality Care is excellent. As a retired cardiac nurse, I think I am a pretty good judge as I understand the physiology and disease processes. 
However, even with the best in Mexico, they lack technology, and in some cases, knowledge that a first world country has. I am so fortunate to live in Manhattan now, which is known for its top doctors and hospitals in the US. All I can say is, get a second opinion (I did that even here for my upcoming lumbar surgery.) Better yet, come to the US for the serous stuff. 

Shoshanah,

I'm sorry to read of all the problems you've had. Unfortunately, there are several doctors here who shouldn't be operating and yet they are. Worse, because they speak English, some folks will swear up and down that that particular doc is one step away from JC. I won't comment on any in particular, but we've learned to be very, very careful. When care is good, it is unbelievably good and puts the US and others to shame. 

As most of us have learned a long, long time ago, any time you post something even slightly controversial on this board, get ready to meet the trolls. It doesn't make the board a bad place, but you just learn to pick and choose your battles.

I hope you're doing better with your medical issues.

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On 2/12/2023 at 4:31 PM, NEWMtnMama said:

I am sorry for your loss. Just for the record Ladrone misdiagnosed TWO of my dogs and I find there are many better, and cheaper, Vets available Lakeside. 

 

On 2/13/2023 at 12:06 PM, luvsdawgs said:

Unfortunately Zoe is not the only patient misdiagnosed by this vet, I have heard of and had personal experience with quite a few. When I took a dog to Hospital Arboledas to the Cardiologist  there, I found the medicine given by her to be highly dangerous. In fact, the cardiologist kept asking who prescribed it and stating that it would kill her. I won't take an animal there again. People do because "she is so nice".

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Lexi. Your idea is a good one. But what I do is check where they did their undergrad, medical school and specialty. I pick from the top and in 9/10 cases here in Manhattan I have gotten the best. When I didn’t I went for the second opinion and then was given the chief of spinal surgery at NYU Langone. Next week I will have surgery.

gunny, when I was working as an RN, I always swore that no one would ever touch my back. We all said the same really. But then medicine and surgery advance, and for myself desperation made the decision. 

 

 

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Hi Lexi. Your idea is a good one but impractical I’m afraid. What I do when selecting a doc is look at where they obtained their education: undergrad with major, medical school, specialty training and fellowship. I also read reviews. Though not reliable, they can be helpful. As an RN, I swore, along with my colleagues, that “no one will ever touch MY back!” But advances happen and desperation due to unremitting severe pain, has led me to surgery, twice. Bad choice in doctor the first time. Next week I will have lumbar repair by the Chief of Spinal Surgery at NYU Langone. So time will tell.

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On 2/13/2023 at 7:16 PM, bmh said:

dr Gabriel Martinez is a shoulder specialist.He did a fabulous job on my shoulder and the one he operated on is better than the other. I have hernia between L4 and L5 and he told me to see a spine specialist and he also told me he did not do that type of surgery.. .I also was told by other specialists here and in France that there wwere 3 out 5 chances that the surgery would help but the resy of the time there is no improvement at best and pain can remain and nothing can be done at worst. I need to do something but I am still shopping around for doctors.

See Dr. Jose Manuel Gonzalez. He comes to Quality Care a couple times a month. He is an experienced Neurosurgeon and operates out of Country Hospital 200 in Guadalajara. He is performing a one level fusion on me on Saturday.  I am confident that after meeting with many that I have found an excellent surgeon. Hopefully, pray!

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