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Verification in Jalisco: The reform to vehicle verification enters into force........

The adjustments to the bases of the vehicle verification program were published in the Official State Gazette and came into force. It was specified that the review is mandatory only for cars that are registered or those with a permanent stay in metropolitan areas or municipalities with more than one hundred thousand inhabitants, provided that they have vehicle verification centers.

https://www.informador.mx/jalisco/Verificacion-en-Jalisco-Entra-en-vigor-la-reforma-a-la-verificacion-vehicular-20220805-0098.html

The 2020 census for:   Chapala 55,196   Jocotepec 47,105      Ixtlahuacán 9,976

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It was specified that the review is mandatory only for cars that are registered or those with a permanent stay in metropolitan areas or municipalities with more than one hundred thousand inhabitants, provided that they have vehicle verification centers.

I take this means that transitory vehicles passing through are exempt, i.e. trips to Guadalajara from Chapala.

 

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1 hour ago, Natasha said:

how else could you take it amigo?

Previously you were allocated 6 passes per 6 months, dated on the date of travel.

INSTRUCTIONS on how to get you TEMPORARY PASS SMOG PASS FOR TRAVEL IN/THRU GUADALAJARA.

The "Verificion Responsable" Smog sticker is available for ALL vehicles spending LESS THAN 20 DAYS in Guadalajara EVERY 6 MONTHS.
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6 minutes ago, Alpha1 said:

Previously you were allocated 6 passes per 6 months, dated on the date of travel.

I know you fret....... so to have peace of mind when going to Guad, why not print a copy ( In Spanish of course) from the Informador link provided by OP and have it in your car at all times?  You could even highlight the relevant portion.....😊

For the record, never heard of the passes  so obviously never used them up to now.......and suspect I may be in the majority?

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1 hour ago, Alpha1 said:

Previously you were allocated 6 passes per 6 months, dated on the date of travel.

INSTRUCTIONS on how to get you TEMPORARY PASS SMOG PASS FOR TRAVEL IN/THRU GUADALAJARA.

The "Verificion Responsable" Smog sticker is available for ALL vehicles spending LESS THAN 20 DAYS in Guadalajara EVERY 6 MONTHS.

Programs change....The phrase permanent stay says it all. If you don't live in a  municipality of over 100k or you live out of state your trip to GDL would not be a permanent stay.

 If you live in GDL = permanent stay.... and have an out of state or for example Chapala registration  you would need the review & sticker. 

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1 hour ago, Al Berca said:

....mandatory for cars that are registered....

You left off  metropolitan areas or municipalities with more than one hundred thousand inhabitants

 

Are our cars not registered?

Hopefully. Registration is your tarjeta de circulación that you re-new every year. 

Again if you live in Chapala you should have registered your car with an address here. Thus you do not need the sticker as Chapala has fewer than 100k residents

From the verification website

"...Alfaro also specified that, although the scope of the Responsible Verification will continue to be statewide, it will only be mandatory for those who live in the AMG (Guadalajara metro zone) and in medium-sized cities and their metropolitan areas..."

 

 https://verificacionresponsable.jalisco.gob.mx/comunicados/anuncia-enrique-alfaro-que-la-obligatoriedad-del-programa-de-verificacion-responsable-se-mantiene-e-incluira-un-esquema-de-incentivos-a-quienes-cumplan-en-tiempo-y-forma/

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On 8/6/2022 at 11:27 AM, Mostlylost said:

Hopefully. Registration is your tarjeta de circulación that you re-new every year. 

Again if you live in Chapala you should have registered your car with an address here. Thus you do not need the sticker as Chapala has fewer than 100k residents

From the verification website

"...Alfaro also specified that, although the scope of the Responsible Verification will continue to be statewide, it will only be mandatory for those who live in the AMG (Guadalajara metro zone) and in medium-sized cities and their metropolitan areas..."

 

 https://verificacionresponsable.jalisco.gob.mx/comunicados/anuncia-enrique-alfaro-que-la-obligatoriedad-del-programa-de-verificacion-responsable-se-mantiene-e-incluira-un-esquema-de-incentivos-a-quienes-cumplan-en-tiempo-y-forma/

Whether or not vehicles registered in the municipalities of Chapala or Jocotepec must continue to test annually is still clear as mud: Although Chapala itself has a population under 100K, the municipality of Chapala IS indeed part of the AMG (área metropolitana de Guadalajara): we are in Region 4, Ciénaga (code 14030), with a 2020 census population of 422,179. Accordingly, vehicles insured here (including foreign-plated) need to comply with the verification. We will get a 10% credit for voluntary compliance on our 2023 annual vehicle registration, tho...

I've emailed the Verificación Responsable people with the conundrum and will report back if I get a more definitive response.

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According to  INEGUI, as shown below, the Guad met area  Includes 10 municipalities, and Chapala is NOT in the list.  

So  it appears  locals do not have to do it, but am sure this will get clarified in the near future, in a more concrete way

 

Desglose de datos del AMG
(según INEGI, 2020)
Municipio Pob. (hab) Sup. (km²) hab./km²
Zapopan9 1 476 491 893 1653
Guadalajara10 1 385 629 150 9225
Tlajomulco de Zúñiga11 727 750 636 1142
San Pedro Tlaquepaque12 687 127 119 5746
Tonalá 569 913 166 3431
El Salto13 232 852 41 5610
Ixtlahuacán de los Membrillos 67 969 184 369
Zapotlanejo 64 806 643 100
Juanacatlán 30 855 89 346
Acatlán de Juárez 25 250 166 151
Total AMG 5 268 642 3090 1704

El Área Metropolitana de Guadalajara, de acuerdo al decreto 25400/LX/15, aprobado por el Congreso del Estado de Jalisco, se localiza en la parte central del estado mexicano de Jalisco y está conformada oficialmente por 10 municipios, de los cuales 6 son considerados como municipios centrales, es decir, municipios que cuentan con una conurbación continua. Dichos seis municipios son: Guadalajara, Zapopan, San Pedro Tlaquepaque, Tonalá, El Salto y Tlajomulco de Zúñiga, los otros cuatro municipios son: Juanacatlán, Ixtlahuacán de los Membrillos, Acatlán de Juárez y Zapotlanejo en los Altos de Jalisco.3

La Zona Metropolitana de Guadalajara cuenta con 48 localidades según el Instituto Nacional de Estadística y Geografía (INEGI), de todas ellas la localidad más poblada es la de Guadalajara con poco más de 1,6 millones de habitantes, dicha localidad es la única del municipio homónimo, siendo este último junto con Juanacatlán los municipios con menor cantidad de localidades (solo una por municipio), Tlajomulco de Zúñiga cuenta con 21 localidades, Tonalá con 8, Tlaquepaque con 8, Zapopan con 9, El Salto con 6 e Ixtlahuacán de los Membrillos con 4, Zapotlanejo.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, ARIBOY said:

 

According to  INEGUI, as shown below, the Guad met area  Includes 10 municipalities, and Chapala is NOT in the list.  

So  it appears  locals do not have to do it, but am sure this will get clarified in the near future, in a more concrete way

 

Desglose de datos del AMG
(según INEGI, 2020)
Municipio Pob. (hab) Sup. (km²) hab./km²
Zapopan9 1 476 491 893 1653
Guadalajara10 1 385 629 150 9225
Tlajomulco de Zúñiga11 727 750 636 1142
San Pedro Tlaquepaque12 687 127 119 5746
Tonalá 569 913 166 3431
El Salto13 232 852 41 5610
Ixtlahuacán de los Membrillos 67 969 184 369
Zapotlanejo 64 806 643 100
Juanacatlán 30 855 89 346
Acatlán de Juárez 25 250 166 151
Total AMG 5 268 642 3090 1704

El Área Metropolitana de Guadalajara, de acuerdo al decreto 25400/LX/15, aprobado por el Congreso del Estado de Jalisco, se localiza en la parte central del estado mexicano de Jalisco y está conformada oficialmente por 10 municipios, de los cuales 6 son considerados como municipios centrales, es decir, municipios que cuentan con una conurbación continua. Dichos seis municipios son: Guadalajara, Zapopan, San Pedro Tlaquepaque, Tonalá, El Salto y Tlajomulco de Zúñiga, los otros cuatro municipios son: Juanacatlán, Ixtlahuacán de los Membrillos, Acatlán de Juárez y Zapotlanejo en los Altos de Jalisco.3

La Zona Metropolitana de Guadalajara cuenta con 48 localidades según el Instituto Nacional de Estadística y Geografía (INEGI), de todas ellas la localidad más poblada es la de Guadalajara con poco más de 1,6 millones de habitantes, dicha localidad es la única del municipio homónimo, siendo este último junto con Juanacatlán los municipios con menor cantidad de localidades (solo una por municipio), Tlajomulco de Zúñiga cuenta con 21 localidades, Tonalá con 8, Tlaquepaque con 8, Zapopan con 9, El Salto con 6 e Ixtlahuacán de los Membrillos con 4, Zapotlanejo.

 

 

Herein lies the potential for a problem: Chapala is listed as part of INEGI's list of Region 4, Ciénega, and the Verificación website says we are included in the annual emissions inspection. I've emailed three times today with the verification folks and, despite three responses, they have yet to directly answer the question. Here's what the inspection/verification website lists, so until they can tell me in writing that we are now excluded, I'll continue to comply:

Por lo que los vehículos particulares y de uso intensivo a gasolina, gas natural y gas LP que circulen en los municipios de Chapala, Atotonilco el Alto, Degollado, Ocotlán, Jamay, Tototlán, Zapotlán del Rey, Poncitlán, La Barca y Ayotlán, deben cumplir con el Programa de Verificación Responsable (PVR) según lo establece el calendario oficial. En el caso de los vehículos a diésel, en este momento la obligatoriedad sólo les aplica si van a circular en el Área Metropolitana de Guadalajara (AMG). Note that foreign-plated vehicles are mentioned and included in the testing requirement: Actualmente, la obligatoriedad del PVR es para vehículos particulares (incluidos foráneos)...

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On 8/6/2022 at 10:48 AM, Alpha1 said:

It was specified that the review is mandatory only for cars that are registered or those with a permanent stay in metropolitan areas or municipalities with more than one hundred thousand inhabitants, provided that they have vehicle verification centers.

I take this means that transitory vehicles passing through are exempt, i.e. trips to Guadalajara from Chapala.

 

You may take it OK...BUT you can bet there are going to be some rouge traffic police willing to challenge you and threat of calling a tow truck

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10 hours ago, lakeside7 said:

You may take it OK...BUT you can bet there are going to be some rouge traffic police willing to challenge you and threat of calling a tow truck

They can not tow your vehicle for that offense unless they see actual pollution ie oil smoke 

Plus there is no enforcement until:

In addition, the president (Alfaro) reiterated that sanctions will not be applied until the necessary conditions are met for users to carry out their verification without any complication, that is, when the appointment system is more user-friendly and intuitive to use and when the installed capacity of the program is at least 80 lines in the AMG and two in each of the medium-sized cities that will be required. (at this time there are 53 lines in GDL)

“This year there are no fines, what there are are incentives for people to understand that verification is everyone's responsibility and we have to do our part to take care of the environment. With this we want to make it clear that the purpose of the program is not to raise more money, what we want is for us to stop polluting,” said the president.

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I did not read every detail on the posts above mine.  Smog inspection wise, my mechanic's daughter is offering a service where she picks up your car in the morning, gets it done and returns it in the afternoon.  For me, it was well worth it.

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On 8/6/2022 at 11:27 AM, Mostlylost said:

Hopefully. Registration is your tarjeta de circulación that you re-new every year. 

Again if you live in Chapala you should have registered your car with an address here. Thus you do not need the sticker as Chapala has fewer than 100k residents

From the verification website

"...Alfaro also specified that, although the scope of the Responsible Verification will continue to be statewide, it will only be mandatory for those who live in the AMG (Guadalajara metro zone) and in medium-sized cities and their metropolitan areas..."

 

 https://verificacionresponsable.jalisco.gob.mx/comunicados/anuncia-enrique-alfaro-que-la-obligatoriedad-del-programa-de-verificacion-responsable-se-mantiene-e-incluira-un-esquema-de-incentivos-a-quienes-cumplan-en-tiempo-y-forma/

The only town Lakeside where verification is mandatory is Ocotlan as their population is over 100,000 and they have a testing center. It makes more sense now.

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On 8/6/2022 at 9:20 AM, Mostlylost said:

Verification in Jalisco: The reform to vehicle verification enters into force..........

The adjustments to the bases of the vehicle verification program were published in the Official State Gazette and came into force. It was specified that the review is mandatory only for cars that are registered or those with a permanent stay in metropolitan areas or municipalities with more than one hundred thousand inhabitants , provided that they have vehicle verification centers.

https://www.informador.mx/jalisco/Verificacion-en-Jalisco-Entra-en-vigor-la-reforma-a-la-verificacion-vehicular-20220805-0098.html

The 2020 census for: Chapala 55,196 Jocotepec 47,105       Ixtlahuacán 9,976

Ocotlan has about 150,000. I say about as the census is rather slipshod

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I hear that a testing station has been set up in Jocotepec again. Does anyone know anything about it? Location?

That info forJocotepec came from Facebook but it is not true. 

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