RickS Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 Realizing it is the 'bridge' season and the cold weather NOB has not yet driven anyone south, how is the traffic these days on the Carretera? Say from Riberas through the new Walmart light, through La Floresta and out to say the French bakery on the west side of Ajijic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo1 Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 As awful as usual. Wait til the high season gets here and we will have to go out very early or very late. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dichosalocura Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 And have fun even getting into Wal-Mart from Chapala. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natasha Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 godawful.........😬....... and even worse heading from west to east 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanson Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 So true. Any time I want to go from West Ajijic to say Mom's Deli or Poncho's store/restaurant, I try to go and return before 10AM or so. It's getting really bad. 9AM 1 PM 🙂 🥵 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 As I sit stuck, moving inch by inch...Question ..Do you ever think or worry about how long an ambulance is go to get to you in the event of a heart attack or stroke?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted October 14, 2021 Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 I gave up on living west of Ajijic a long time ago because of the traffic. Now, it's even worse. The back up to go east can be up to Yves Restaurant. With the disastrous lights at the Walmart intersection, the traffic to go west can be backed up to the San Antonio Hospital. It now doesn't really matter where you live. If you go out around noon, take a lot of patience with you. This morning, I left my house in Riberas at 7: 45 to deliver something in Ajijic close to the OXXO on the highway. It was very smooth sailing. However, driving back east, I had to pull over four times because the morning sun was blinding me. Still made it home by 8:30. Time of day that you travel is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo1 Posted October 14, 2021 Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 I moved out of SAT 2 years ago because I had such a hard time turning left from my street to go toward the libramiento. The traffic around SuperLake is so bad that I don't want to go through there very often. Living in Chapala Haciendas and going through Chapala to get to Riberas is actually less busy than trying to get from the libramiento to Riberas. UUGGHH!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragtopman Posted October 14, 2021 Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 Rick....Traffic is terrible here and the Walmart debacle doesn't make it any better. This is the only place I've seen that takes a half hour to drive a mile. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dostortas Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 I’m averaging about 25 minutes to go 4km’s on the carretera through town. Are the traffic lights being off in SAT a permanent thing now? Anybody know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyjillin Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 I retired before I got here so my mindset re: time going hither and yon has changed accordingly. How many of you moaners and groaners are still working to be detrimentally affected by slow traffic? pedro kertesz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dripfeed Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Ask yourself how many times a week you choose NOT to go out because you just don't want to deal with traffic. Every decision to stay home means less dollars added to the economy. Despite this being my first post, I am a long termer here, still working. This is just an issue that finally made me sign up to this rather cantankerous board. I am hearing lots of friends saying they are looking elsewhere for their winter stays. Add debilitating traffic problems to land costs that are getting at the same level as better managed places, and the advantages to choosing lakeside are quickly disappearing. So much so that I am thinking of leaving too. The traffic issue in Ajijic not only limits what can be done in a day, which reduces competitivity, it increase business costs, fleet costs, it reduces quality of life, increases safety concerns, absenteeism, adds slow emergency response times and a host of other issues that are beginning to sound a death knell for the area. It is a very serious issue. I am beginning to think Ajijic will go the way of the dot.com industry. Great while it lasted, but once gone, it will never come back. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcake Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 38 minutes ago, Dripfeed said: Ask yourself how many times a week you choose NOT to go out because you just don't want to deal with traffic. Every decision to stay home means less dollars added to the economy. Despite this being my first post, I am a long termer here, still working. This is just an issue that finally made me sign up to this rather cantankerous board. I am hearing lots of friends saying they are looking elsewhere for their winter stays. Add debilitating traffic problems to land costs that are getting at the same level as better managed places, and the advantages to choosing lakeside are quickly disappearing. So much so that I am thinking of leaving too. The traffic issue in Ajijic not only limits what can be done in a day, which reduces competitivity, it increase business costs, fleet costs, it reduces quality of life, increases safety concerns, absenteeism, adds slow emergency response times and a host of other issues that are beginning to sound a death knell for the area. It is a very serious issue. I am beginning to think Ajijic will go the way of the dot.com industry. Great while it lasted, but once gone, it will never come back. Twice it has taken me one hour from Superlake to centro Ajijic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floradude Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 When I moved here in 2003 Ajijic was still considered a village. There were no traffic lights. I would never have moved here if Ajijic as it is now, existed then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringohombre Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 41 minutes ago, Dripfeed said: Ask yourself how many times a week you choose NOT to go out because you just don't want to deal with traffic. Every decision to stay home means less dollars added to the economy. Despite this being my first post, I am a long termer here, still working. This is just an issue that finally made me sign up to this rather cantankerous board. I am hearing lots of friends saying they are looking elsewhere for their winter stays. Add debilitating traffic problems to land costs that are getting at the same level as better managed places, and the advantages to choosing lakeside are quickly disappearing. So much so that I am thinking of leaving too. The traffic issue in Ajijic not only limits what can be done in a day, which reduces competitivity, it increase business costs, fleet costs, it reduces quality of life, increases safety concerns, absenteeism, adds slow emergency response times and a host of other issues that are beginning to sound a death knell for the area. It is a very serious issue. I am beginning to think Ajijic will go the way of the dot.com industry. Great while it lasted, but once gone, it will never come back. Frankly I do not care about Ajijic. Try to avoid it at all costs. There is a lot more to Lakeside than Ajijic!!! Not only the traffic, but the parking, congestion and noise is mostly avoidable...to me at least!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Dripfeed said: Ask yourself how many times a week you choose NOT to go out because you just don't want to deal with traffic. If you are a long termer here surely you have noticed the proliferation of delivery services. It started with Amazon, which is fast and reliable, even looking after customs payment. The pandemic quarantine, over the past two years has normalised the expansion of delivery services to include restaurant meals, groceries, liquor. Most meals are delivered hot because many drivers are using small motorcycles which allow getting around traffic clogs. There was a famous law case when Henry Ford sued a journalist for calling him "dumb". The journalist's attorney got Ford on the stand and started to ask him difficult memory questions, all intended to show how dumb Ford was. Ford lost patience and said I have a switchboard on my desk, with it I can connect with engineers, mathmatical geniuses, artists - you name it. That is where we are now in our society. This rich man's switchboard is now available to everyone with the internet, international zoom meetings, etc., there is no need to go out other than boredom. If that is the problem, a gentle bicycle ride or easy stroll on any of the malecons is easily done. There has definitely been a boom in vehicle ownership, particularly among Mexicans, but the traffic here is nothing "serious", especially compared to the maelstrom of Guadalajara or Puerto Vallarta. More interesting. For the remote workers especially. How many choose NOT to go because they don't want put on a long sleeve shirt and full length trousers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 I just got back to Riberas from doing my weekly grocery shopping. The traffic, going west on the careterra, was backed up to Dr. Barragan's Dental Office which is EAST of Mirasol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, Ferret said: I just got back to Riberas from doing my weekly grocery shopping. The traffic, going west on the careterra, was backed up to Dr. Barragan's Dental Office which is EAST of Mirasol. The Walmart traffic light nest strikes again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyPanda Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, CHILLIN said: there is no need to go out other than boredom. Hardly. Reduced, sure. No need? Not really. Work, visiting, appts with specialists, the need to live and be near people, all kinds of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 49 minutes ago, Ferret said: I just got back to Riberas from doing my weekly grocery shopping. The traffic, going west on the careterra, was backed up to Dr. Barragan's Dental Office which is EAST of Mirasol. Friday is always a bad traffic day. Many people are paid on that day, most companies use cash cards which need ATM machines. The Tapatios and ranchers are coming in for an early start to their weekends, stocking up on drinks, snacks and food. They do not use delivery here, although they do in the cities. How come all the people who come here for peace and tranquility make so much dxxx noise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, AndyPanda said: Hardly. Reduced, sure. No need? Not really. Work, visiting, appts with specialists, the need to live and be near people, all kinds of things. It is interesting that mental health professionals have found the pandemic quarantine has caused many to develop agoraphobia type symptoms. Fear of crowds and open spaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Moody's has down graded Lakeside from hold to sell. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomgates Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 When we were there, especially in the snowbird season, I would drive from Ajijic to SuperLake or Pancho's either before 9:30 or after 4:00. I hear from friends that the barriers for the bike path have not helped and left turners hold up traffic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 Unfortunately, there's not much anyone of us can do about it. It doesn't look like the Powers That Be have chosen to do anything, either. The only option, therefore, is to either move elsewhere or develop more patience. Some good C.D.'s help. Audio Books were a brainsaver back in our LA Freeway days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vetteforron Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 One of the reasons I left the area after 20 years living there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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