AndyPanda Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 6 hours ago, virgo lady said: Wrong again, 25 out of 20 million. Healthy people with no previous issues. Wrong "again"? Not yet. Here's my article; https://abc7chicago.com/astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-blood-clots-us/10430086/ Where's yours? 25 deaths? Come on, show us. Not only that, the percentage is like .000005. You will die of someone's fart before you will die of a blood clot from the Covid vaccine. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudgirl Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 My personal jury is out on the AZ vaccine for now. I'm super healthy, but I also have extremely low blood pressure , varicose veins and poor circulation (which doesn't bother me in daily life, except that my hands and feet get cold easily). So blood clotting is a risk for me, more so than most people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgo lady Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 France limits AstraZeneca Covid jab to over-55s as Europe treads cautiously | World news | The Guardian France has said only people aged 55 and over should receive the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine, and three Scandinavian countries have reserved judgment until next week, a day after Europe’s health regulator declared the shot safe and effective for all age groups. As politicians launched an urgent effort to convince citizens of the vaccine’s safety, the French health regulator said the shot’s use should resume “without delay”. France was among more than a dozen EU states to suspend the shot this week. But Dominique Le Guludec, the head of the regulator, said it should be provisionally reserved for people aged 55 and over until further information was available, on the basis of rare but serious cases of a brain blood clot disorder known as cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST). Le Guludec said 25 people who had received the AstraZeneca shot had fallen ill with the disorder in Europe, and nine aged under 55, most of them women, had died. The cases needed further investigation, she said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyPanda Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 Hmmm. 25 people "fallen ill". Not died. And certainly not of blood clots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgo lady Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, AndyPanda said: Hmmm. 25 people "fallen ill". Not died. And certainly not of blood clots. 9 died, NOT 2. Of blood clotting and closely related factors. Health under 55's. You're wrong again. Got skin / stock in this AZ game, do you? $$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bowie Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 Report on 3-20-2021 is that there have been 13 people in Texas out of almost 3M vaccinated that have become positive with the virus more than 14 days after getting their 2nd shot. No mention if any have died. So glad we got our Pfizers there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyPanda Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 41 minutes ago, virgo lady said: 9 died, NOT 2. Of blood clotting and closely related factors. Health under 55's. You're wrong again. Got skin / stock in this AZ game, do you? $$$ Have not been wrong YET. You have beenw rong every single time. And you keep making it up. Every. Single. Time. Where does it say 9 died? Of blood clots? You keep changing the numbers without showing us you proof. Come on, wake up or go home. Never mind. Don't bother. We know you can't. And I simply can no longer carry on a "conversation" with someone with your... attitude. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, AndyPanda said: Have not been wrong YET. You have beenw rong every single time. And you keep making it up. Every. Single. Time. Where does it say 9 died? Of blood clots? You keep changing the numbers without showing us you proof. Come on, wake up or go home. Never mind. Don't bother. We know you can't. And I simply can no longer carry on a "conversation" with someone with your... attitude. I commented on you behaving in a condescending way on another thread a few days ago and you said I know nothing about you and I was judging you hastily. Maybe I was but I read almost ever post here and get a feel for what different posters are thinking. Well if you keep insulting us instead of politely correcting/communicating with us posters the way you just did with very long time poster and a knowlegable poster virgo lady I hope you will stop and think about why you, a newbie member here for months, feels entitled to behave in this way? Prove me wrong then and calm down. Alan, another long time member. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 Alan you criticizing someone who HAS BEEN here a long time, just not on this board, and he is dealing with someone who thinks they are never wrong even when they fabricate the garbage they put out there. So don´t include me with your "US". 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyPanda Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 58 minutes ago, AlanMexicali said: I commented on you behaving in a condescending way on another thread a few days ago and you said I know nothing about you and I was judging you hastily. Maybe I was but I read almost ever post here and get a feel for what different posters are thinking. Well if you keep insulting us instead of politely correcting/communicating with us posters the way you just did with very long time poster and a knowlegable poster virgo lady I hope you will stop and think about why you, a newbie member here for months, feels entitled to behave in this way? Prove me wrong then and calm down. Alan, another long time member. You think my firm stance against this person is insulting? No, in my opinion, what you find insulting is that you were not able to deal with my solid arguments against your comments. virgolady has been here since late 2019. Maybe a year and a half, and has slung almost nothing but poison since the first comment. That's a long time? By who's standards? I asked for proof. What I got was malarkey, and more than once. But here you go, changing the rules. I just don't cotton to BS, and I don't believe any other member does except when they side with it. I may be direct when confronting BS, but not insulting. Is that insulting to you? So be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 10 hours ago, AndyPanda said: Hmmm. 25 people "fallen ill". Not died. And certainly not of blood clots. 10 hours ago, virgo lady said: 9 died, NOT 2. Of blood clotting and closely related factors. Health under 55's. You're wrong again. Got skin / stock in this AZ game, do you? $$$ 10 hours ago, AndyPanda said: Have not been wrong YET. You have beenw rong every single time. And you keep making it up. Every. Single. Time. Where does it say 9 died? Of blood clots? You keep changing the numbers without showing us you proof. Come on, wake up or go home. Never mind. Don't bother. We know you can't. And I simply can no longer carry on a "conversation" with someone with your... attitude. https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-benefits-still-outweigh-risks-despite-possible-link-rare-blood-clots 7 + 18 = 25 ill from blood clots. 9 died. News 18/03/2021 "These are rare cases – around 20 million people in the UK and EEA had received the vaccine as of March 16 and EMA had reviewed only 7 cases of blood clots in multiple blood vessels (disseminated intravascular coagulation, DIC) and 18 cases of CVST. A causal link with the vaccine is not proven, but is possible and deserves further analysis. The Committee’s experts looked in extreme detail at records of DIC and CVST reported from Member States, 9 of which resulted in death. Most of these occurred in people under 55 and the majority were women. Because these events are rare, and COVID-19 itself often causes blood clotting disorders in patients, it is difficult to estimate a background rate for these events in people who have not had the vaccine." It seems you need correcting not virgo lady in this case. She could have used a much better link to the info. she was quoting, I must admit, but shouldn't be called a BSer by you because she chose not to. Yes, I definately consider your comments about her rude and insulting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 4 hours ago, AndyPanda said: You think my firm stance against this person is insulting? No, in my opinion, what you find insulting is that you were not able to deal with my solid arguments against your comments. virgolady has been here since late 2019. Maybe a year and a half, and has slung almost nothing but poison since the first comment. That's a long time? By who's standards? I asked for proof. What I got was malarkey, and more than once. But here you go, changing the rules. I just don't cotton to BS, and I don't believe any other member does except when they side with it. I may be direct when confronting BS, but not insulting. Is that insulting to you? So be it. See my above post. Again I recommend you to calm down and be nice. What solid arguments against my comments are you refering to? When you said I know nothing about you? I am learning more all the time. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 5 hours ago, slainte39 said: Alan you criticizing someone who HAS BEEN here a long time, just not on this board, and he is dealing with someone who thinks they are never wrong even when they fabricate the garbage they put out there. So don´t include me with your "US". I used the word "us" as a collective. If you wish to be excluded do so without my permission. It would be automatic by it's exclusion policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcscats Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 Stop this silliness. You folks have been indoors too long. 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcscats Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 Read this. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/mar/22/astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-79-effective-with-no-increased-blood-clot-risk-us-trial 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyPanda Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 3 hours ago, AlanMexicali said: See my above post. Again I recommend you to calm down and be nice. What solid arguments against my comments are you refering to? When you said I know nothing about you? I am learning more all the time. Alan You are one big personal attack. No more comments necessary or forthcoming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, AndyPanda said: You are one big personal attack. No more comments necessary or forthcoming. I did not personally attack you at all. I commented on what you were doing only. Get some courage and then comment on my posts if you like. Don't run and hide and expect me not to comment on your posts if I like. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyPanda Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, AlanMexicali said: I did not personally attack you at all. I commented on what you were doing only. Get some courage and then comment on my posts if you like. Don't run and hide and expect me not to comment on your posts if I like. Alan "Condescending. Calm down. Be nice. Get some courage. Don't run and hide." You are one big personal attack. No more comments necessary or forthcoming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgo lady Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 9 hours ago, AndyPanda said: I just don't cotton to BS That's false too, and frankly, all of it that you continue to spew, is proof. Read the articles, see the data. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgo lady Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 36 minutes ago, AndyPanda said: "Condescending. Calm down. Be nice. Get some courage. Don't run and hide." You are one big personal attack. No more cmments necessary or forthcoming. Triggered much, there, AndyPanda bear? Need a hug? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 If ever a Thread needed locking..... 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 minute ago, RickS said: If ever a Thread needed locking..... If it is locked it will be the first time in awhile without gringohombre's help. 😊 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiness Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, AndyPanda said: You are one big personal attack. No more comments necessary or forthcoming. Come on, grow up already.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeanRoy Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 3 hours ago, virgo lady said: Triggered much, there, AndyPanda bear? Need a hug? YOU HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY A GROUP OF YOUR PEERS AND FOUND WANTING. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgo lady Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 55 minutes ago, BeanRoy said: OF YORU PEERS So has your spelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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