virgo lady Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 Yes, you seem to be a master-baiter, Hud. Enjoy "yourself" 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hud Posted April 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 minute ago, virgo lady said: Yes, you seem to be a master-baiter, Hud. Enjoy "yourself" Thanks, I am enjoying it. Have a wonderful afternoon ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Hud said: An interesting statistic I found, for those who 'have not completely lost their minds by now: as of today (4-3-2020), .01 % of the people in Texas have the virus, or are recovered. Another statistic worth noting: as of today, .0003 % of Texans have died. These are totals since January, when the Trump Adm stopped flights from China.The MSM will NOT show you those stats, because some of you might realize they have been trying to destroy the US with their scare tactics. Does this mean this virus is not serious. No, but it needs to be put into perspective with reality. As of today, Texas has 5,330 cases and 90 have died and 5,133 cases are still active. You might want to check your math. 90 deaths is 2% of known cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hud Posted April 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ferret said: As of today, Texas has 5,330 cases and 90 have died and 5,133 cases are still active. You might want to check your math. 90 deaths is 2% of known cases. What an animal you are !!! Lets not go from apples to oranges. Lets stay with apples. 90 deaths is .0003% of the Texas population. You just wantta make it sound like more die than do. That get you off? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 It is way worse than the regular flu and much more contagious. And I wouldn't wish the coronavirus on my worst enemy. Next question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 Yes it is worse than the regular flu. No it is not the black plague. Yes the medical progress is extremely rapid. U of Pittsburg announced they have a vaccine almost ready for testing. Positive results are accumulating quickly about the hydroxychloroquine combo treatment. Will this be as bad as H1N1? Yes and then some but at the end of the day the big cost, which we unfortunately are going to witness, is the incredible economic damage done on millions of people who won't eat because they can't work. We are already taking steps to keep our three Oaxaca girls in school because we know their artisan parents, who depend wholly on people coming to Mexico and buying their fine arts, aren't going to be able to. Thanks to God and the U.S. for the amazing opportunities it gave us over our lifetimes we can. If you are thinking now is a great time to own some very high end Alibrijes I can email you a catalogue with prices. Everyone needs to look around and see what can be done to help. My parents lived through the Great Depression and WWII. They shared a lot what that was like. We have a ways to go before we get to that level. Our Mexican neighbors, maybe not such a far way to go. 🤕 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, Mainecoons said: Positive results are accumulating quickly about the hydroxychloroquine combo treatment. Small Trial Finds Hydroxychloroquine Is Not Effective for Treating Coronavirus A trial of an anti-malaria drug in France found different results from a similar study published the previous month. https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/04/03/small-trial-finds-hydroxychloroquine-is-not-effective-for-treating-coronavirus/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiko Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 ^^^ Well that is discouraging news. On another front though, UdeG has been researching Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for Gruñon disease that usually runs alongside Moco Guajolote disease. Both are common in expat communities with elevated infection rates among older white males. We can only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, AngusMactavish said: Small Trial Finds Hydroxychloroquine Is Not Effective for Treating Coronavirus A trial of an anti-malaria drug in France found different results from a similar study published the previous month. https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/04/03/small-trial-finds-hydroxychloroquine-is-not-effective-for-treating-coronavirus/ Results not supported by the more general reports coming in of successful use on far larger numbers in New York, or by the other French studies (2) or by the Wuhan results. I'm skeptical. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 Studies are trying different doses and combinations of drugs. I would like to see a 5 day study using Hydroxychloroquine 200 mg 2 times a day, Zinc sulfate 220 mg 1 time a day, and Azithromycin 500 mg 1 time a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano1948 Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 Oklahoma, Texas, Johnny Cash, Patsy Cline...Kinda says it all, although I did like Patsy Cline....LOL.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 My brother is on his fifth day of coma and he is on these drugs.the fever dropped yesterday but his lungs are not functioning yet stil lon a respirator.. So far those drugs are no miracle.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 What I am reading is these drugs work best if administered early when symptoms first appear. They cannot do anything about the big damage once it appear. Thinking of your brother bmh and hoping for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Menudo Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, bmh said: My brother is on his fifth day of coma and he is on these drugs.the fever dropped yesterday but his lungs are not functioning yet stil lon a respirator.. So far those drugs are no miracle.. I hate to hear this but not surprised. Best of wishes to you and your brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Menudo Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mainecoons said: What I am reading is these drugs work best if administered early when symptoms first appear. They cannot do anything about the big damage once it appear. Thinking of your brother bmh and hoping for the best. Hmmmm, most who get infected only have mild symptoms. Some, no symptoms at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 I do not know about the States but in France only the people in the hospital are treated with these drugs and people who are in the hospitals are the worst cases. There if you have the virus you do enter the hospital unless you have a very high temperature and difficulty breathing, the other people are told to stay home and take paracetamol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hud Posted April 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 More Reality : 2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season: Preliminary Burden Estimates Other Languages CDC estimates* that, from October 1, 2019, through March 28, 2020, there have been: 39,000,000 – 55,000,000 flu illnesses 18,000,000 – 26,000,000 flu medical visits 400,000 – 730,000 flu hospitalizations 24,000 – 63,000 flu deaths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dichosalocura Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 And to think, that many deaths after a large percentage of Americans went and got their recommended vaccinations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hud Posted April 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, dichosalocura said: And to think, that many deaths after a large percentage of Americans went and got their recommended vaccinations. A lot, isn't it, and the season is not over yet. Biggest problems are nonvaxxers and older people with other advanced conditions. Just think how many lives were spared because they did have the vaccination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Hud said: A lot, isn't it, and the season is not over yet. Biggest problems are nonvaxxers and older people with other advanced conditions. Just think how many lives were spared because they did have the vaccination. They never tried to contain the seasonal flu where I worked. They all came to work. Coughed and wiped their runny noses. Took pain medicine when the fever gave them a strong headache and flu remedies and usualiy infected a dozen of us employees and then we in turn all came to work ,,, etc.. Are you insinuating that if we treat this Covid-19 outbreak like seasonal flu and don't take any precautions only about 16,000+, the CDC current statistic, will die and not maybe up to a million or more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hud Posted April 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, AlanMexicali said: They never tried to contain the seasonal flu where I worked. They all came to work. Coughed and wiped their runny noses. Took pain medicine when the fever gave them a strong headache and flu remedies and usualiy infected a dozen of us employees and then we in turn all came to work ,,, etc.. Are you insinuating that if we treat this Covid-19 outbreak like seasonal flu and don't take any precautions only about 14,000+, the CDC current statistic, will die and not maybe up to a million or more? Can't be treated the same as the flu because (1) there is not a vaccine, (2) doctors do not know what treatments yet will work to help, like they do with the flu, and (3) it spreads a lot more rapidly than the flu. Seems to have the fact that more vulnerable(those with other health conditions) people are at high risk in common with the flu, but that may be a characteristic of all respiratory viruses. I hope you don't believe what you suggest here. Surely you are more intelligent than that, Alan? I will also say that if countries are able to keep the deaths totals less than with the flu, their leadership will have done an outstanding job handling this situation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#HarryB Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 bmh, your brother is in our prayers. We too have a brother in the hospital --the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Several Vaccines are in the works with the most advanced in either animal trials or small human tolerance trials. The only approved human trials involve various dosage levels to determine side effects of the vaccine..No humans are directly exposed to the Covid/19 virus in an attempt to determine effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 IMO, talking about a vaccine for Corvid-19 to be developed, tested, rolled out and administered to, what, maybe 150 million people is like talking about who is going to win the 2022 Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeser Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 On 4/3/2020 at 3:27 PM, Ferret said: As of today, Texas has 5,330 cases and 90 have died and 5,133 cases are still active. You might want to check your math. 90 deaths is 2% of known cases. These stats to have any validity must be calculated against population not known cases. Population is known but total number if cases us an unknown. You must use a per capita infection and death rate or you are just manipulating numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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