Alfa Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 My Mexican wife tells me the name "La Pueblita" means nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 It is a name intended to mean little village or town , but it should be El Pueblito as pueblo is a masculine word 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Puebla is a large city in Mexico, maybe this a miniature facsimile. LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, slainte39 said: Puebla is a large city in Mexico, maybe this a miniature facsimile. LOL Or miniature state jajajaja 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taaffe Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 11 hours ago, Alfa said: My Mexican wife tells me the name "La Pueblita" means nothing. When it first came out I wrote to them telling them the same thing and they thanked me. They cut down so many trees, something that is out of hand all over the lakeside area look at this Facebook page for an idea how Ajijitecxs feel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfa Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Thanks. Could not agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djangoplayer Posted June 20, 2021 Report Share Posted June 20, 2021 Do not go to la pueblita. I took my mother there. La pueblita promised it could provide all levels of assistance to her. Within a few days it was obvious my mother needed full time assistance. Despite the promises, la pueblita did not open its cafeteria, and had no way to assist dementia patients. I paid approximately $5000 in membership fees and $4000 for security deposit and rent, and she was there 2 weeks. That was over 3 months ago and la pueblita refuses to return any money and doesn’t return calls. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted June 20, 2021 Report Share Posted June 20, 2021 Something like thi place is needed Lakeside but this one seems to have problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted June 20, 2021 Report Share Posted June 20, 2021 9 hours ago, Djangoplayer said: Do not go to la pueblita. I took my mother there. La pueblita promised it could provide all levels of assistance to her. Within a few days it was obvious my mother needed full time assistance. Despite the promises, la pueblita did not open its cafeteria, and had no way to assist dementia patients. I paid approximately $5000 in membership fees and $4000 for security deposit and rent, and she was there 2 weeks. That was over 3 months ago and la pueblita refuses to return any money and doesn’t return calls. That really sucks. Have you tried taking this to PROFECO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djangoplayer Posted June 20, 2021 Report Share Posted June 20, 2021 What is profeco? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted June 20, 2021 Report Share Posted June 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, Djangoplayer said: What is profeco? "In Mexico it was in 1976 that the Federal Consumer Protection Law was enacted, which gave rise to the creation of the Federal Consumer Attorney's Office(PROFECO), to be the institution in charge of defending the rights of consumers, preventing abuses and guaranteeing fair consumer relations." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted June 20, 2021 Report Share Posted June 20, 2021 32 minutes ago, Djangoplayer said: What is profeco? https://www.gob.mx/profeco Telcon agents provide free and useful services such as: Advice and Information : know your rights as a consumer and consumer. Scheduling appointments by phone (Procitel) : schedule your appointment by phone or online to go to the nearest Consumer Defense Office to access the services offered by Profeco. Commercial Bureau : knows the number of complaints, reasons for claim and procedures against suppliers and adhesion contracts registered with the institution. File your complaint or complaint : when a commercial establishment does not respect your rights. Price comparison : check the Who's Who in Prices information to find out where to find a product at a lower cost. Quality studies : request and consult the results of the studies carried out by the Profeco National Consumer Protection Laboratory. Profeco Domestic Technology : know a simple and inexpensive way to make cleaning products, personal hygiene and food, among others. Request articles and information published in the Consumer Magazine for making better consumer decisions. Remember our services are free. Contact the Consumer Telephone 55 5568 8722 and 800 468 8722 or visit from anywhere at http://telefonodelconsumidor.gob.mx/. We serve 365 days a year, our service hours are from 9:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. from Monday to Friday and from 10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. on weekends and holidays 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted June 20, 2021 Report Share Posted June 20, 2021 Be aware that PROFECO is an arbitrain type of court and if La Pueblita offers you a small amount to settle and you refuse . then you lose and they tell you to take it to civil court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezpz Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 I asked for their info a few weeks ago, just curious, and what they send you elaborates on the vague pricing and programs you see on the website. It is VERY expensive and obviously going way behind schedule for whatever reason. They told me the project would be finished in about a year, I said fine, I'll call you then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 On 6/20/2021 at 7:57 AM, Djangoplayer said: Do not go to la pueblita. I took my mother there. La pueblita promised it could provide all levels of assistance to her. Within a few days it was obvious my mother needed full time assistance. Despite the promises, la pueblita did not open its cafeteria, and had no way to assist dementia patients. I paid approximately $5000 in membership fees and $4000 for security deposit and rent, and she was there 2 weeks. That was over 3 months ago and la pueblita refuses to return any money and doesn’t return calls. Whilst I have sympathy for your (mothers) situation and the delay in full operation ,unless we see the contract you signed , (and read the small print) could be they are not "all" to blame Many months back when I spoke to a couple of reps at LCS they were very vague on details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha1 Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, lakeside7 said: Whilst I have sympathy for your (mothers) situation and the delay in full operation ,unless we see the contract you signed , (and read the small print) could be they are not "all" to blame Many months back when I spoke to a couple of reps at LCS they were very vague on details Contracts, regardless of how well they are written, are only as good as the integrity of those that sign them. Otherwise it's about how much money you wish to throw at lawyers and the courts to hope on a favourable outcome and then how you will collect; as well as the years and years you wish to spend on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 What is very expensive? Fr exemple my mother in France rent a nice one bedroom apartment in a building with restaurant and elevator. There are nurses 24 /7 . Each person has to wear a necklace to call for help if they need it. There is a library and games and events weekly. Once a week a van take people wherever they need to go in town, barbers and hairdressers also come as well as many other suppliers. There is a nice garden with benches to relax on . Electricity heat water are included, You have to contract for phone and internet. You can hire cleaners The laundry people also come once a week to pick up and deliver. You can hire help to help you daily if you like. The monthly price for the apartment is 200 Euros My mother spends about 500 euros a month at the restaurant. If you become totally incapcitate with Alzeimer for exemple you canot stay there but you are signed in into another facility that has only private rooms and for that the price is 700 euros with nurses and doctors 24/7 That is in a country where the realestate is more expensive than here and the help is expensive as you have to pay all benefits. Minimum 35 euros an hour for a cleaner and up from there for nurses and helpers. How does it compare pricewise.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Dalziel Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Did anyone here attend the Grand Opening last week? If so, did you learn anything of interest to this discussion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 20 hours ago, bmh said: What is very expensive? Fr exemple my mother in France rent a nice one bedroom apartment in a building with restaurant and elevator. There are nurses 24 /7 . Each person has to wear a necklace to call for help if they need it. There is a library and games and events weekly. Once a week a van take people wherever they need to go in town, barbers and hairdressers also come as well as many other suppliers. There is a nice garden with benches to relax on . Electricity heat water are included, You have to contract for phone and internet. You can hire cleaners The laundry people also come once a week to pick up and deliver. You can hire help to help you daily if you like. The monthly price for the apartment is 200 Euros My mother spends about 500 euros a month at the restaurant. If you become totally incapcitate with Alzeimer for exemple you canot stay there but you are signed in into another facility that has only private rooms and for that the price is 700 euros with nurses and doctors 24/7 That is in a country where the realestate is more expensive than here and the help is expensive as you have to pay all benefits. Minimum 35 euros an hour for a cleaner and up from there for nurses and helpers. How does it compare pricewise.? That sounds like it might be heavily subsidized. Less than $300 per month for an apartment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Sorry the one quit working on my compu , it is 1200 euros a month. The place in France is owned by AXXA. It is not subsidized but the maids, gardeners etc are-- They are 30 euros an hour and up but can be deducted from the taxes if you pay that rate which includes retireent, vacations and all benefits. If you hire someone without paying benefit you can be fined heavily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezpz Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 I tried to copy and paste what they sent me, but not working. Their pricing is complex depending on what kind of program and what kind of living space you want. The cheapest is the 1 room studio with independent living which costs $30,000pesos/mo. but does NOT include food, which is available at restaurant prices or the little grocery shops (to be built?) nearby. So, I'm not going to leave my roomy 2 br. house with a big kitchen for that! This setup also required a $10,000USD "deposit" - on what, I don't know. The next level would be a 1 BR apt. with full assisted living which costs $36,400MXP/mo. and a $60,000USD deposit which you can get back when you die. Not making this up! There are other levels of housing that cost more. It's funny how they can't quote the deposit amount in pesos because the number would be so huge! I thought it sounded nice at first, but considering the place is not close to being finished - with pool, restaurants, etc., I think I'll pass. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 7 hours ago, ezpz said: I tried to copy and paste what they sent me, but not working. Their pricing is complex depending on what kind of program and what kind of living space you want. The cheapest is the 1 room studio with independent living which costs $30,000pesos/mo. but does NOT include food, which is available at restaurant prices or the little grocery shops (to be built?) nearby. So, I'm not going to leave my roomy 2 br. house with a big kitchen for that! This setup also required a $10,000USD "deposit" - on what, I don't know. The next level would be a 1 BR apt. with full assisted living which costs $36,400MXP/mo. and a $60,000USD deposit which you can get back when you die. Not making this up! There are other levels of housing that cost more. It's funny how they can't quote the deposit amount in pesos because the number would be so huge! I thought it sounded nice at first, but considering the place is not close to being finished - with pool, restaurants, etc., I think I'll pass. That is feasible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whipstock Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 10 hours ago, ezpz said: .....,The next level would be a 1 BR apt. with full assisted living which costs $36,400MXP/mo. and a $60,000USD deposit which you can get back when you die. Not making this up! ,..... Maybe they think you really can take it with you? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisbee Gal Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 In the US, many CCRC's charge refundable (or partially refundable) entrance fees held in trust by the facility. The facility is allowed to invest the funds and keeps any interest earned. Not federally regulated, but most states have laws governing CCRC's financials (some stricter than others). Most states require CCRC's to file regular financial statements and many conduct audits of them. State laws may require high cash reserves so that refunds can be routinely paid out upon death. Even so, there have been bankruptcies of CCRC's. Doubtful such laws governing CCRC's exist here in Mexico at this time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 La Pueblita is a condominium. There are 2 different areas of the law that govern developments in Jalisco. A fracc is governed by corporate laws. A condominium is governed by condominium laws. It is very possible the "one time membership fee" would fall under contract law and have nothing to do with condominium. (Some so called attorneys lakeside don't even know the difference and often will advise fracc members and boards using condominium law which does not apply) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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