ea93105 Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Looks like a little mountain range with what looks to be a planter in the middle ? Hopefully they add badly needed street lights also, that section is pitch black at night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 It is quite elaborate. People won't be able to steal them or break them off like they did with the green poles. It will be interesting to see the finished product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostlylost Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, ea93105 said: Looks like a little mountain range with what looks to be a planter in the middle ? Hopefully they add badly needed street lights also, that section is pitch black at night There is hose for electrical cable and the bases for light poles. All those bicycles at night will have light on their path. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out1 Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Looks like great practice jumps for the local Evel Knievel scooter drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 In front of Multiva the bike lane is wider than the car lane. You have to straddle the yellow divider line to get by.  Not sure how they will correct that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Kyle said: In front of Multiva the bike lane is wider than the car lane. You have to straddle the yellow divider line to get by.  Not sure how they will correct that Exactly, much of the bike lane has encroach on to the highway. Also when completed the bike lane surface will be better, in particular the section in Chapala, than the highway..Go figure that  out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, Out1 said: Looks like great practice jumps for the local Evel Knievel scooter drivers. Not just the scooter drivers. You can expect to see some of the drunks vault that barrier too. Should be good work for the local body shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floradude Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 If all of those concrete squares are planters who will care for the plants? They will never be watered enough to survive. Perhaps they are new recycle containers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 7 hours ago, Floradude said: If all of those concrete squares are planters who will care for the plants? They will never be watered enough to survive. Perhaps they are new recycle containers.... The planters through SAT on the Carretera get watered all year round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moderator-2 Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 Deleted those last three posts, that got out of hand. Particularly you, Ficklepie. No mas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunFan Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 The whole project is just insane. A bike lane as wide as the ones for cars and trucks? Left turns and buses stopping now impede traffic? As Happyjillin pointed out - what happens when an ambulance can't pass because traffic is backed up in both directions and cars can't get off the road? SunFan 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solajijic Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 Here is what I think - the Chapala government does not have money for "real" projects because of the previous administrations going back a ways has obligated the current budgets for lawsuits and settlements etc... so when the State of Jalisco offers some money for special projects they take it regardless of whether it suits our needs or not. Obviously we need to make safe and beautiful bike lanes for the 3-400 people a day who use the lane. The fact that thousands are using the roadways and safety is compromised initially means nothing. Fast forward a few years and an administration will be ripping it all out to create a 3rd or even 4th lane. Such a waste.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyjillin Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, solajijic said: Here is what I think - the Chapala government does not have money for "real" projects because of the previous administrations going back a ways has obligated the current budgets for lawsuits and settlements etc... so when the State of Jalisco offers some money for special projects they take it regardless of whether it suits our needs or not. Obviously we need to make safe and beautiful bike lanes for the 3-400 people a day who use the lane. The fact that thousands are using the roadways and safety is compromised initially means nothing. Fast forward a few years and an administration will be ripping it all out to create a 3rd or even 4th lane. Such a waste.  Here is what I "know". Any large projects here "any time" are funded by the state or federal governments never from Chapala's "regular budgets" so lawsuits,etc. have nothing to do with this latest mother of all projects. The Jalisco Government supplied the funds and the Chapala Government is supplying the labour and machinery. The state told the muni we will give you the money if you do it our way or you get nada. Not only is the bike path not needed for any reason but most importantly it will interfere with the movement of emergency vehicles. Last but not least it does away with a whole lot of parking. some mom and pop businesses will probably go bankrupt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seren Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 5 hours ago, solajijic said: Here is what I think - the Chapala government does not have money for "real" projects because of the previous administrations going back a ways has obligated the current budgets for lawsuits and settlements etc... so when the State of Jalisco offers some money for special projects they take it regardless of whether it suits our needs or not. Obviously we need to make safe and beautiful bike lanes for the 3-400 people a day who use the lane. The fact that thousands are using the roadways and safety is compromised initially means nothing. Fast forward a few years and an administration will be ripping it all out to create a 3rd or even 4th lane. Such a waste.  "If you build it, they will come" Wouldn't it be wonderful if all the locals could use bikes or trikes instead of automobiles? I am using my bicycle now and it is one less car on the road. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcelonaman Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 Quite a few do use bikes but not the bike lane. Non have lights. I drive early mornings and is as dangerous as hell. They have a death wish . Dont stop at traffic lights, dont look behind when turning. Just crazy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanson Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 That is so true, barcelonaman. Half of the bike riders seem to have their own driving rules. It's like they are contemplating suicide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ea93105 Posted January 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 Confirmation today from a worker that the openings in the middle are for plants. I see stubs for lights every 40 ft or so. I agree that the path is too wide near Mulitiva, they are going to have to move the road centerline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 I've observed the practice for both bike riders and pedestrians seems to be if you don't look up they won't run over you.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Be nice if they could just keep the bulbs working in traffic lights.  The corner of Galeana, by Oxxo, and the Carretera is an accident waiting to happen.  The light going North and south turns green but the red east west light on the  Carretera is burnt out.  I have seen several near misses.  Both directions think their light is green 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, Kyle said: Be nice if they could just keep the bulbs working in traffic lights.  The corner of Galeana, by Oxxo, and the Carretera is an accident waiting to happen.  The light going North and south turns green but the red east west light on the  Carretera is burnt out.  I have seen several near misses.  Both directions think their light is green They want to keep us alert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Or kill us off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 54 minutes ago, Kyle said: Or kill us off Just don´t pull out onto the Carretera until the traffic stops. I´ve been doing that for 40 years, it´s called defensive driving- Using your God given right of a green light might cost you time and money.  1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdlngton Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 6:33 PM, Kyle said: Be nice if they could just keep the bulbs working in traffic lights.  The corner of Galeana, by Oxxo, and the Carretera is an accident waiting to happen.  The light going North and south turns green but the red east west light on the  Carretera is burnt out.  I have seen several near misses.  Both directions think their light is green The eternal Mexican question "Is black red or is black green?". This morning I ran two black lights . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeser Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 6:34 PM, ea93105 said: Looks like a little mountain range with what looks to be a planter in the middle ? Hopefully they add badly needed street lights also, that section is pitch black at night Yes they are elaborate, but the money would have been better spent on patching pot holes and removing topes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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