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slainte39 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 On 6/5/2019 at 5:45 PM, RIlady said: I have been here over 10 years. So, I should just let their cheating go. I never yell or raise my voice, but I'm not going to be screwed with. Locals put up with theft and poor service, they expect it. For that reason, locals never get problems resolved and …… the beat goes on. Just in case you forgot the post!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kam Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 Oh, I am pretty sure I will not forget that one - thanks, Slaine, rock on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moderator-2 Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 hours ago, slainte39 said: And yet you allow derisive and insulting remarks about "locals" who I assume are Mexicans. Difference was you got pretty nasty with a specific poster here in a personal way. That may be OK on TOB but it isn't here. Don't do it again. You know about that word "assume" when broken down into its component parts? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 Well I took it personal heading up a large family of "locals" in an obvious put down that didn´t assume a whole lot except that which was written. In any event, I gotcha chief, and I will try to control my assumptions, or get sent to Siberia. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvsdawgs Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 Not for nothing, I consider myself a local as I live here and have for many years. Where else would I be a local if not where I live. I think there is a difference between a local and a native resident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xena Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 When I first moved here I was told “locals” was used to refer to anyone who lived here. People born in other countries were “foreigners” and Mexicans were “nationals.” I still often hear people use “locals” when they are talk about Mexicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappysmarket Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 Mexican manners. Course Fee: $250 MXN Instructor: Alfredo Pérez Course Dates: July 25, 2019 Course Time: Thursday, 10:00 -12:30 pm Course Location: South Campus Board Room Min/Max Students required: 11/40 Enrollment begins Jun 10 from 10:00 to 2:00 pm at the LCS Office Enrollment ends July 20. Description: Cultural shock is a normal part of life when we move to another country whose habits are different, we have to observe and learn the local rules of urbanity, what body language issues are appropriate and which are not. Why is the behavior of the inhabitants of the new place so different? What do local people expect from me as a new inhabitant of the area? What phrases should I use and at what times? What should I understand about the time structure of the local people so different from mine? Why are the procedures with the authorities so complicated? And a long list of etc. Just in time for this thread, eh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 There are foreigners that have lived here for years and never leave the "gringo world" or mentality, others that assimilate rapidly. Some that have lived here a long time still refer to where they came from, as "back home". Hardly the nomenclature of a local. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 When we first moved to Mexico, 15 years ago, we lived in San Miguel de Allende. We signed up for a three week, all day Spanish lessons session with the local Warren Hardy group.The first day, Warren came and spent the day pointing out the differences between Mexican cultural mores and those of the U.S. Some of it was a real stunner; some was just another way to be polite and all in all, it was invaluable. The course suggested at LCS would doubtless be a benefit to anyone who attends it, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringohombre Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 In my over 30 years travelling and doing business here as well as living here full time for over 11 years; In the grand scheme if things I find Mexicans extremely honest. Every culture and country has it's Bad Apples, and i have traveled extensively. Here there is more honesty than most. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyFree Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 28 minutes ago, gringohombre said: In my over 30 years travelling and doing business here as well as living here full time for over 11 years; In the grand scheme if things I find Mexicans extremely honest. Every culture and country has it's Bad Apples, and i have traveled extensively. Here there is more honesty than most. Yes, we are so fortunate that the word "mordida" does not exist in Mexico! And better still, corruption is totally unheard of. 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 One man´s trash is another man´s treasure….. One country´s corruption is another country´s way of earning a living and getting ahead. Same practice worldwide…...different perspective 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kam Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 And here we are, the earth is dying due to our greed and I (for one) can't get my knickers in a twist over a ten peso overcharge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringohombre Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 3 hours ago, FlyFree said: Yes, we are so fortunate that the word "mordida" does not exist in Mexico! And better still, corruption is totally unheard of. I was talking about business and commercial transactions; not government, police or the judicial system which is corrupt to the core. I have been doing business with artists, indigenous groups, families and many organizations here for more years than I care to mention and have had almost no problems with any of this. And to say that many hardworking cashiers or store clerks are scamming the vulnerable Gringos here is simply ludicrous!!! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 Yes, corruption in Mexico is much more acceptable at the public/government level than in the private sector. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudgirl Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 On 6/6/2019 at 3:44 PM, Herman said: I have gotten MORE change than I should have. Hundreds of pesos. I smile and walk away. I don't do that because the cashier has to account for missing money in the till when it doesn't jive with the receipts. They'll either have to pay it out of their own pocket or likely get fired. It could be argued that they should get fired if they can't pay attention to the job they're being paid to do, but I'd not like to think some woman with a family to support had to cough up 300 pesos that she mistakenly handed me. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 4 hours ago, mudgirl said: I don't do that because the cashier has to account for missing money in the till when it doesn't jive with the receipts. They'll either have to pay it out of their own pocket or likely get fired. It could be argued that they should get fired if they can't pay attention to the job they're being paid to do, but I'd not like to think some woman with a family to support had to cough up 300 pesos that she mistakenly handed me. Best way to learn. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvsdawgs Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 Sometimes it can be an honest mistake, but when it is more than 10 pesos, which it usually is, is it a mistake? I remember when the person at the cashier was shortchange a few hundred pesos, had given the cashier a 500 peso bill and the cashier stated it was a 200 bill. The person next in line bent over and looked under the counter and there was the 500 bill. It did involve the supervisor and a bit of a brouhaha, the cashier still in denial, but the customer was given the correct change with apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily H Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 On 6/6/2019 at 4:49 PM, Herman said: Kinda. Hehehe Isn't it so unfortunate for someone to potentially lose the job over this when it should have been easily avoided? That's quite a loss of integrity as a grownup. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 Pete's idea is the best one. Carry a full range of bills and change and hand over as close as you can to the actual amount due. Count it into their hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyjillin Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 This topic comes up constantly on this and various boards. I just pay even with large bills,pretend I'm watching the screen. Take what change I'm given. Tip the packer and leave. I like this little gem "Don't sweat the small stuff-Robert Eliot" By the way,I have had cashiers run after me to give me some of my change that I forgot to pick up or dropped on the floor. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanson Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 Happyjillin wrote "I have had cashiers run after me to give me some of my change that I forgot to pick up or dropped on the floor." Me too; I was happily shocked one time a Walmart. I forgot to pick up my 20 pesos of change. They chased me down and gave it to me, Needless to say, I tipped the person who brought the twenty peso bill to me. Being cheap, I only tipped 10 pesos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slainte39 Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 20 hours ago, mudgirl said: I don't do that because the cashier has to account for missing money in the till when it doesn't jive with the receipts. They'll either have to pay it out of their own pocket or likely get fired. It could be argued that they should get fired if they can't pay attention to the job they're being paid to do, but I'd not like to think some woman with a family to support had to cough up 300 pesos that she mistakenly handed me. They have a third option when jerks take too much change that they don´t deserve, and that is, make it up on a future short change. So accepting too much change could cause a problem that human nature dictates a solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helohfe Posted June 9, 2019 Report Share Posted June 9, 2019 Carry enough Peso's in various denominations and 20+ peso's in change (coins) so that you count out the billed amount and then hit the road..Geez 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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