conejorapido Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Any bread bakers out there who know where I can find this locally or in Guad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 There is a durum or "winter" wheat grown in northern Mexico. But it is not as flavorful as the winter wheat from the northern U.S. and Canada. I'm sure a lot of it ends up in bread, but it is in high demand all over the world for pasta manufacturers. I thought about buying hard wheat berries, and grinding them myself in an electric grinder, this what the hardcore bread bakers do because this way the flour is fresh, and at its best flavor. A baker I know who is no longer on this board said there are wheat berries for sale in Guadalajara Tianquis, but they had small rocks and chaff in them. Your best bet is to buy a Mexican flour which is supposed to be used for pizza dough. This requires a percentage of the high gluten, hard wheat, you are looking for. If not, then an import from King Arthur Flour. https://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/items/king-arthur-extra-fancy-durum-flour-3-lb or Mercadolibre http://harina preparada para pizza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Liana Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 3 hours ago, CHILLIN said: or Mercadolibre http://harina preparada para pizza For some reason the link above brings me directly back to this page on Chapala.com. Could you take a look at it to see why? I'd like to see what the ingredients are for "harina preparada para pizza". Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 I bought king arthur at SL .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 https://listado.mercadolibre.com.mx/harina-preparada-para-pizza#D[A: harina preparada para pizza ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Liana Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 32 minutes ago, CHILLIN said: https://listado.mercadolibre.com.mx/harina-preparada-para-pizza#D[A: harina preparada para pizza ] Thanks! It's interesting to see that the first product, the one pictured in a brown paper bag, contains flour, sugar, salt, and yeast--plus some other ingredients (mejorador, for example) that I can't really figure out. "Just add water". Stagioni, a 00 flour, is supposed to be really good for making pizza dough, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere in Mexico City. Once in a while a supermarket will list it as available online, but when one orders it, they don't have it. What one wants for making great pizza dough is a high-protein flour--the protein develops gluten in the dough. The highest protein flour I can find here is San Blas, at 11.5% protein. San Blas is made in Puebla and is available at just about any supermarket. Selecta and most of the other brands run 10% protein. I get very good crust results from San Blas. This one could have used a couple of minutes more in the oven, for browning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyHomeSweetHome Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 21 hours ago, conejorapido said: Any bread bakers out there who know where I can find this locally or in Guad? Yes, you can pick up semolina flour at Superlake, sometimes Walmart etc or in the many grain stores in Abastos. I still buy wheat berries in Abastos which appear to be soft berries and am grinding it myself for fresh bread, have sour dough starter and pita rising now. Sifting the freshly ground flour leaves me the durum. What are you baking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyHomeSweetHome Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, More Liana said: Thanks! It's interesting to see that the first product, the one pictured in a brown paper bag, contains flour, sugar, salt, and yeast--plus some other ingredients (mejorador, for example) that I can't really figure out. "Just add water". Stagioni, a 00 flour, is supposed to be really good for making pizza dough, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere in Mexico City. Once in a while a supermarket will list it as available online, but when one orders it, they don't have it. What one wants for making great pizza dough is a high-protein flour--the protein develops gluten in the dough. The highest protein flour I can find here is San Blas, at 11.5% protein. San Blas is made in Puebla and is available at just about any supermarket. Selecta and most of the other brands run 10% protein. I get very good crust results from San Blas. This one could have used a couple of minutes more in the oven, for browning. 00 flour is sold at Sams Club and Abastos, possibly at most stores lakeside, it’s called extra fina...then we can want 00 right from Italy. The secret, according to a local Italian, to the flavor of our dough is the process each individual or family uses to raise their dough. More flavorful dough comes from a longer rise. It doesn’t come from using a lot of yeast. Pizza dough only needs 1/2 tsp then allowing the dough to rise, punch it down and rise again melding the flavors into the dough. Storing the dough in the refrigerator using it over several days you’ll notice the dough has more flavor after a few days. Happy baking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, MyHomeSweetHome said: More flavorful dough comes from a longer rise. It doesn’t come from using a lot of yeast. And fresh yeast. Check the date on the package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conejorapido Posted February 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 I'm looking for Durum flour which is similar to but not the same as semolina. Semolina is a courser grind and primarily used for pasta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Liana Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 13 hours ago, MyHomeSweetHome said: 00 flour is sold at Sams Club and Abastos, possibly at most stores lakeside, it’s called extra fina...then we can want 00 right from Italy. The secret, according to a local Italian, to the flavor of our dough is the process each individual or family uses to raise their dough. More flavorful dough comes from a longer rise. It doesn’t come from using a lot of yeast. Pizza dough only needs 1/2 tsp then allowing the dough to rise, punch it down and rise again melding the flavors into the dough. Storing the dough in the refrigerator using it over several days you’ll notice the dough has more flavor after a few days. Happy baking! As I mentioned, I haven't seen 00 flour here--here being where I live, in Mexico City. YMMV where you are. I don't think I mentioned using extra yeast, or wanting more flavor. I make a quite satisfactory pizza dough given the materials available. And yes, I understand about letting the dough proof in the refrigerator. Maybe you weren't addressing your remarks to me specifically, but when you quoted my post, it seemed that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bontepar Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 Super Lake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 Stupid ear bug I can't get rid of - durum, durum, durum - Theme to Pink Panther! Now you have it too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OPc7MRm4Y8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 On 2/5/2019 at 12:19 AM, More Liana said: As I mentioned, I haven't seen 00 flour here--here being where I live, in Mexico City. YMMV where you are. Shopping for flour today at Soriana in Chapala I was surprised to see 00 flour there on the shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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