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Long term secure storage, yes! 

Better to bottle a wall, than a car, like in the old days when the assembly line workers were not happy.....could see that happening again, the way GM is shutting down plants in the US & C.....🍾

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18 minutes ago, Ferret said:

So you're telling me that a wall built of pure cement will fail?

That is why use rebar in cement walls, for the shifting. How many feet down did they dug for a footing. Did they consider for drainage? Most damage to walls is from water.

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Absolutely Tiny. But to say that the wall shown has too much cement and not know what is behind the cement is silly. It's a look at a final example... same as the photo just shown by Vista Lake. Footings and drainage are also not shown.

The wall in my garden is a foot wide and has been there for 23 years now. The house we owned in Canada was 125 years old when we bought it in 1986. It was built on a rock foundation two feet wide and the walls were slip form PURE concrete one foot thick. Rebar did not exist in those days. I believe it's a matter of the MIX of concrete as well.

Perhaps no one should jump to conclusions without all the facts.

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Portland cement shrinks, it takes up to 90 years to cure completely, the first 30 days are critical. It requires expansion joints and vapor barriers to stop moisture. Your wall in Ontario could have contained a lot of lime - makes a much stronger wall, but over time. Curiously, I have the American Concrete Insitute "Concrete Repair Guide" on my desk. This is "the Law" to engineers and specialists.

This is the gold standard of stone walls, no mortar at all, from the fifth Century.

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/doorway-inca-temple-lost-city-machu-106685189?src=KogxmfoDTJiBYb8yJPNTIA-1-10

 

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43 minutes ago, Tiny said:

That is why use rebar in cement walls, for the shifting. How many feet down did they dug for a footing. Did they consider for drainage? Most damage to walls is from water.

Good points. They often don't dig down deep enough for footing for the wall.

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1 hour ago, CHILLIN said:

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that wall has WAY to much cement mortar in it. It is the cement that will fail, not the stone.

Additionally, to me, at least, I don't find that wall in the least bit attractive. It's a cement wall with stones stuck in it, not a stone wall held together with mortar. This is what I consider a stone wall, pictured above.

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29 minutes ago, AngusMactavish said:

Am I misreading your post?

I get your point. I retired about ten years ago. I have considered training a new crew, now that my health issues are resolved. Good money in this specialty sub-trade, but it eats your muscles in no time.

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