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I just find it curious that a month after our admitted socialist president is sworn in problems start. At least it took Chavez about 10 years to destroy Venezuela. I love Mexico that is why I have done everything I can do to fit in except dye my hair and wear a sombrero.   I also wonder what's next.

Go ahead flame me.

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1 hour ago, vetteforron said:

I just find it curious that a month after our admitted socialist president is sworn in problems start. At least it took Chavez about 10 years to destroy Venezuela. I love Mexico that is why I have done everything I can do to fit in except dye my hair and wear a sombrero.   I also wonder what's next.

Go ahead flame me.

That's neither accurate nor fair IMO.  The theft and corruption exploded in the Peña Nieto regime.  Yesterday's testimony in the Chapo trial gives some indication of just how bad it was.  AMLO took the bull by the horns and that has created some temporary problems.  Well worth it in my view.  As I have noted, however, his ideology will prevent proposing the only solution that would. really work, getting the government out of the energy business and opening things up to full competition.

Recall that Pemex employees are in this theft up to their corrupt necks will any of them be jailed or fired?  Otherwise as soon as the government and army turn their backs it will start all over again.

I also wonder if anyone else noticed how many new gasoline franchises opened over the same period of time the levels of theft skyrocketed.  I wonder how many are owned by cartel or government thieves and I wonder how many have been pumping stolen gas.  It seems one of the reasons so many stations have shut down is they've been buying and selling stolen gasoline.  I suppose it is too much to ask these guys should be ferreted out and the properties confiscated and sold to help recoup some of the stolen funds.  I'd sure love to see that.

 

 

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I’m curious....  Just what is the ‘relationship’ between Pemex and the ‘new’ BP, Shell etc stations that have now replaced some Pemex?  Is it just a ‘sign change’? It would appear that there is no other source for gas than Pemex... or at least right at the moment. Will this change with time?

Facts as opposed to speculation would be helpful.....

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At this point only Mobile stations are receiving gasoline that is imported directly.

There were hundreds of direct import permits issued a couple of years ago for 2018 onward, but as of yet they have not been used. I would surmise that that will soon change. 

Already the governor of Guanajuato has been working to achieve this with the first deliveries expected to arrive in a few days for the brand Total gas stations  (a French company) . 

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3 hours ago, Mainecoons said:

That's neither accurate nor fair IMO.  The theft and corruption exploded in the Peña Nieto regime.  Yesterday's testimony in the Chapo trial gives some indication of just how bad it was.  AMLO took the bull by the horns and that has created some temporary problems.  Well worth it in my view.  As I have noted, however, his ideology will prevent proposing the only solution that would. really work, getting the government out of the energy business and opening things up to full competition.

Recall that Pemex employees are in this theft up to their corrupt necks will any of them be jailed or fired?  Otherwise as soon as the government and army turn their backs it will start all over again.

I also wonder if anyone else noticed how many new gasoline franchises opened over the same period of time the levels of theft skyrocketed.  I wonder how many are owned by cartel or government thieves and I wonder how many have been pumping stolen gas.  It seems one of the reasons so many stations have shut down is they've been buying and selling stolen gasoline.  I suppose it is too much to ask these guys should be ferreted out and the properties confiscated and sold to help recoup some of the stolen funds.  I'd sure love to see that.

 

 

Dan, I have to drive everyday hence this is a big problem for me. I have not yet to sit in long lines but, probably soon. AMLO should have prepared and thought of the unintended consequences. So people are beginning to suffer now.  Yes I do blame the prez.  I hole heartily agree to get government out of the petrol business. Just look at the states for the first time in 75 years they produce more than they use.

Anyhow just a couple of days more all will be normal.

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I sympathize Ron, we are easily able to go another 3 weeks with the gasoline in our car's tank.  Even our group of moto riders have parked our bikes until some semblance of normal returns.  None of us want to be competing with the folks who really have to have fuel in order to do their jobs.

However I do believe it was impossible to not have short term problems as part of this crack down on an extremely pervasive and broad based crime involving Pemex itself, cartels, government and free lancers in areas where the previous government basically gave up any semblance of security or control.  Worse, they were apparently in the theft up to their necks.

This is just the legacy of that incredibly bad Peña Nieto government.  There will be more bad news and revelations coming.  The political establishment has been looting this country on a scale that would make your average rapacious third world dictator extremely envious.

Unintended consequences when dealing with this level and scope of crime are hard if not impossible to anticipate.  One interesting thing, Pemex is actually selling and getting paid for more gas than when this all started.  That just shows how large the problem was.

 

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Of course this is the problem with so many things here. The gov't used to trust the military, because they couldn't count on their corrupt cops. How long before they found out about the military corruption? Is there any service that isn't corrupt?

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At least AMLO is trying to do what he promised against corruption. Mexico did not get the way it is in 6 years, and AMLO will not be able to rectify what Mexico has become in his 6 years. People must understand that they must help AMLO in their desire for less corruption, otherwise nothing will change. AMLO cannot just wave his "magic" wand.

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There is a whole bunch of thieves in ths country from top to bottom and the higher the thieves and the most they get but a whole lot of people want AMLO to succeed as wll and that is heart warmong and I nave yet to gear so many people saying they will support AMLO and are thankfull to have a honest president so ther is hope, if AMLO can change a few things it could help start a movement against corruption. I have a friend who is high up in the government in Chiapas and although from a corrupt party she is not corrupt and there is much less corruption i her  area than there used to be , she leads by exemple  so I really think that what the country needs is some inspired good leaders and things could change , not everyone want to be a low life thief.

 

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Good points Maincoons.

To put the imported oil/weak peso problem in perspective, currently Mexico produces about 1.8m barrels per day of crude, exporting 60% of it (ie just a little under 1m barrels) to US refiners,  and at the same time, re-imports around 1m barrels per day of refined products. Mexico’s existing refineries (6 of them I believe) refine the remaining 40% of crude produced.

The new refinery proposed by AMLO would produce around 400k barrels per day of refined products, and he’s stated it could be completed in 3 years, which coming from NOB I find astounding, as NOB it would probably take that long just to get the environmental impact studies commissioned.

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