Tiny Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, ned small said: libations Always help with almost everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcstroker Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 As one that has kayaked and now rows on the lake I can state for a fact the lake is usually surprisingly warm. I could be wrong but I surmise that the depth of the lake has a lot to do with that. It's not a particularly deep lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 This thread really has run the gamut, hasn't it? From someone asking if it is safe to swim, to personal knocks against Dr. Stong, to complaints about how disgusting it is. I refer to you numerous studies of The Great Lakes that border Canada and the U.S, that have been published for decades, even declaring Lake Erie "dead" at one point. And those are two countries with almost unlimited resources and funding to fix that kind of problem. Maybe ease up a tad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibbocat Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 I doubt if the kids that swim in the lake have access to heated pools but if you want to open your doors to them  I am sure they would be grateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ned small Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, ibbocat said: I doubt if the kids that swim in the lake have access to heated pools but if you want to open your doors to them  I am sure they would be grateful. Now there's a plan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traderspoc Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Harvard university did a study about 5 years on the lake fish , said ok for pregnant women to eat the fish  the lake has waves and is shallow , so near the shore its murky form wave action, go about a mile where its 10 feet deep the water is much clearer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyken Posted March 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Many thanks to everyone for the stimulating exchange. The reason I prefer to swim in lakes is simply that I do not like swimming in pools. But as I forgot to bring my aqua shoes, I guess I'll forego Lago de Chapala. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 24 minutes ago, bdmowers said: ...At the end of his talk he then takes water from the bottom of the container, the sand having thoroughly filtered the water. There are towns to the east of Mezcala that use this method for their communal drinking water. 1 A sand filter no matter the size will only filter the particles larger than bacteria or viruses, they pass through along with dissolved heavy metals. It may be pretty, but maybe not so safe to drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkEliot Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Might be a little dirty but there are REAL MERMAIDS out there. Honest they come out after dark in front of the Beer Garden. They are beautiful Before you go out make sure you have a shot of tequila. It’s a Mexican law    1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 3 hours ago, dcstroker said: As one that has kayaked and now rows on the lake I can state for a fact the lake is usually surprisingly warm. I could be wrong but I surmise that the depth of the lake has a lot to do with that. It's not a particularly deep lake. The average temperature of the lake from many, many readings is 20° That is not warm for most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 9 hours ago, ComputerGuy said: I'm not surprised, but kind of amazed, when people castigate experts on a given topic simply because they are mentioned frequently. Talk about reverse logic. Dr. Stong has been researching this lake and assisting Mexican officials for years before your name ever came up. Probably knows more about this lake than everything I ever learned in my entire lifetime. He has also restored the business lives of untold numbers of fishermen by debunking the mercury issue. I suggest you read this latest report before firing off your blanks. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwibw8eczv3ZAhUDXq0KHXlGAogQFggpMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.focusonmexico.com%2F%3Fdownload_id%3Da6e1ba29b2755968a99f22e39766641a&usg=AOvVaw3e8BYsTB2hejrivfkRblHZ I think Dr. Stongs findings are flawed. Who says he is an expert? He is not a Limnologist but an engineer. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibbocat Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 27 minutes ago, cedros said: I think Dr. Stongs findings are flawed. Who says he is an expert? He is not a Limnologist but an engineer. From his talks he only takes samples others (labs)Â test them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, ibbocat said: From his talks he only takes samples others (labs)Â test them. Yes. Who interprets the results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro malo Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 I was looking at some property in San Juan some years back on their water front street (properties on lake side of street were lake front lots).  I notice a manhole cover open and raw stinking sewage with all the disgusting chunks of fecal matter and paper that one might imagine, gushing at a considerable volume and pressure, streaming down one of the side alleys directly into the lake.  That answered the swimming question for me! pm 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, bdmowers said: Interesting, but Master Stong lives and breathes still as do the people in the towns with the sand filters. Life versus facts. Life always wins. Maybe there was no bacteria or viruses in the water. Life that wins may be short lived too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Cedros, you don't have to be a degree graduate in a topic to be an expert. Just look at some of the people here who never graduated clown school, yet are still great at the job. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 4 hours ago, AngusMactavish said: A sand filter no matter the size will only filter the particles larger than bacteria or viruses, they pass through along with dissolved heavy metals. It may be pretty, but maybe not so safe to drink. This is correct.  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibbocat Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 13 hours ago, cedros said: Yes. Who interprets the results? That is the easy bit you look at the recommendations from your prefered authority WHO, CDC Green Peace, GOP and compare. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 16 hours ago, gypsyken said: Many thanks to everyone for the stimulating exchange. The reason I prefer to swim in lakes is simply that I do not like swimming in pools. But as I forgot to bring my aqua shoes, I guess I'll forego Lago de Chapala. After all of that, he FORGOT his aqua shoes. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tiny said: After all of that, he FORGOT his aqua shoes. I would give him mine if I could watch him swim in the lake. How about my mask and fins too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkshawn Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Nose Plug?? Hair Net??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 No, ear plugs. The little creatures have to get inside somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ned small Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Wet suit,dry suit, scuba gear. Look at all those little kids in my picture cavorting in the water in full gear,never mind just aqua shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 This you Ned? Â 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappysmarket Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 17 hours ago, ComputerGuy said: Cedros, you don't have to be a degree graduate in a topic to be an expert. Just look at some of the people here who never graduated clown school, yet are still great at the job. Dilly Dilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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