rvanparys Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 It would be interesting to know just how the fiber would get to the subscribers... I can't imagine that TelMex would allow a competitor to use their poles... The cost of a residential fiber infrastructure is extremely expensive and that coupled with this initiative being outside the company's normal business plan and the company's experience in Zamora does not bode well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorandfaith Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 What do you mean by company's experience in Zamora? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLU Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 bedbug, why ain't i as smart as you are? i paid the whole thing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLU Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 rvanparys i know that this thread and the few that have preceded it are quite long, but early on it was posted that ILOX has a nationwide agreement with CFE to use their poles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kookielendmeyourcomb Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Honorandfaith said: What do you mean by company's experience in Zamora? From their webpage (and Facebook page) it appears that they are based in Zamora, Michoacan and have coverage that extends to Sahuayo and Juquilpan, etc. And the posted reviews are largely negative, but none appear to be from 2018. Here is a map of their current and planned coverage, as well as supposed agreements with third parties farther north and northeast. What I have read on their website doesn’t give me a lot of confidence, or at least not at present. Will be interesting to see their progress this year. http://www.iloxtelecom.com/internet-dedicado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 22 minutes ago, kookielendmeyourcomb said: From their webpage (and Facebook page) it appears that they are based in Zamora, Michoacan and have coverage that extends to Sahuayo and Juquilpan, etc. And the posted reviews are largely negative, but none appear to be from 2018. Here is a map of their current and planned coverage, as well as supposed agreements with third parties farther north and northeast. What I have read on their website doesn’t give me a lot of confidence, or at least not at present. Will be interesting to see their progress this year. http://www.iloxtelecom.com/internet-dedicado I've tried to get Google translate to convert this to English, but it doesn't work. Could you give me the major gist of it? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kookielendmeyourcomb Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Ok, will do that Gringal, in awhile... but it does appear that they do have an office in a building in Guadalajara: Av. Lázaro Cárdenas, No. 3675, Col. Jardines de San Ignacio (Chapalita), Guadalajara Jalisco, Tel 01 (331) 031 2429 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis clark Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 will it go past at the libramento, or turn up / stop there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvanparys Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 NLU: Thank you for the correction... That solves part of the puzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLU Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 kookie lend me your comb ILOX does have such an office three weeks ago, like a fool i decided to deliver my contract naturally i got lost so i hired a taxi which i followed to the office i was there and saw it it was new and not really moved into yet only 2 or 3 people naturally no english (very little) but, it is there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcelonaman Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Reading the comments on facebook , the extremely limited coverage shown on their web page and very little background gives me no confidence to part with my money. Too many unanswered questions and very debatable business plan and marketing strategy make it a simple descion for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael2595 Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Perhaps one should talk to the people on the other side of the lake who have the service. I have talked to one fellow who thinks they are great and he gets great service as promised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utilitus Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 7 hours ago, michael2595 said: Perhaps one should talk to the people on the other side of the lake who have the service. I have talked to one fellow who thinks they are great and he gets great service as promised. May I ask, which town/barrio south of the lake? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunFan Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 If you read the comments it almost seems as if all the naysayers want the Ilox project to fail! SunFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 I don't think they want it to fail so much as they've lived in Mexico a long time and it just sounds too good to be true. Skeptical and cautious? Definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcelonaman Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Ferret you have summed up my doubts. I dont want it to fail and once they connect it to my house i will pay a year in advance. Would rather have a reliable system with all the kinks resolved than be an early adopter with all inherent risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, barcelonaman said: Ferret you have summed up my doubts. I dont want it to fail and once they connect it to my house i will pay a year in advance. Would rather have a reliable system with all the kinks resolved than be an early adopter with all inherent risks. However, the early adopters/payupfronters don't seem to think it will happen at all unless enough people want it badly enough to pay up front, which leaves the matter going 'round in a circle. Otherwise, I feel as you do. I would not be willing to pay year in advance, though, and many others couldn't do so for budgetary reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 They have enough prepaid subscribers to begin, and they have promised to return monies if it can't go through. Their website is chock-full of contracts indicating their solidity, and explanations of how it will all come together. But is is a leap of faith no matter how one looks at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 hour ago, ComputerGuy said: .......But is is a leap of faith no matter how one looks at it. Sort of like a lot of things when discussing living in Mexico, eh? While I don’t have a horse in this race, some thoughts..... Everyone has their own comfort zone (and financials) when it comes to doing things. We make decisions based on, sometimes, no idea of how future decisions will affect them. Wasn’t that long ago that folks felt perfectly comfortable bringing their foreign plated cars to Mexico (forever) only to have Immigration laws change that potentially negated that option. The option of buying a home in Mexico has at least ‘some’ potential of being ‘cause for concern’ in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, RickS said: Sort of like a lot of things when discussing living in Mexico, eh? While I don’t have a horse in this race, some thoughts..... Everyone has their own comfort zone (and financials) when it comes to doing things. We make decisions based on, sometimes, no idea of how future decisions will affect them. Wasn’t that long ago that folks felt perfectly comfortable bringing their foreign plated cars to Mexico (forever) only to have Immigration laws change that potentially negated that option. The option of buying a home in Mexico has at least ‘some’ potential of being ‘cause for concern’ in the future. Good points, RickS. The decision to move to Mexico for retirement is the really high risk gamble. After that, it's a series of leaps of faith right down to the present, where we have no certain assurance that the Mexican government won't do to us non-citizens what the U.S. government is doing to Mexican born non-citizens. We have no certainty that we won't have to grab what we can throw in the car and head back to the NOB, thus losing the homes we own. If we're renters, we don't know if our landlord will decide to evict us and put a favored nephew in the house. However, the matter of little decisions like the fiber optics issue depends on whether one has the extra cash in the first place and whether one wishes to spend it in that way. Not such a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorandfaith Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Rick S..... Big diff. We are not ILLEGALLY IN THE COUNTRY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 10 hours ago, Honorandfaith said: Rick S..... Big diff. We are not ILLEGALLY IN THE COUNTRY. No, we're not. (No need to shout with caps.) But the Mexican government can change laws at their will, just as they have already made higher income requirements, regulation about foreign plated cars, rules about non-involvement in Mexican political affairs which, if not followed, can lead to deportation and many, many other matters. (A friend of mine did get vocal and was deported without recourse). In other words, don't delude yourself. We are here on sufferance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 15 hours ago, Honorandfaith said: Rick S..... Big diff. We are not ILLEGALLY IN THE COUNTRY. Honor and faith.... might want to make sure that you are quoting the right person. I never said you were illegal, but I get your political drift. RickS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 31 minutes ago, RickS said: Honor and faith.... might want to make sure that you are quoting the right person. I never said you were illegal, but I get your political drift. RickS I think she was addressing my statement, which I should have clarified further re what governments can do to residents, legal or illegal, depending on and what official policy and rules created may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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