cedros Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 1 hour ago, hensley said: It is the same street as the bus station is on heading to the main drag, I don't know my streets in Joco, I just know how to get around. Which bus station? There are two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Habacht Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 The street is Matamoros Sud and it is one way towards the mountain. Parking us usually tough. Fred Habacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedros Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Thanks. I know were it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 so if golf carts have to have license plates but the office in Chapala doesnt issue them then where in the world do you get one???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcelonaman Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Possibly joco ! But my first language is English so I could be confused. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYSY Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 To all those complaining about the “Golf Cart” problem and how it’s not fair that they don’t have to pay referendums, get plated or have insurance. And that they get in the way of the rightful users of the roads and parking spaces - cars. Allow me to retort: Cars, not golf carts, are by far and away the biggest problems at Lake Side – no need to look further than the highway any day of the week or the “no place to park” situation in Ajijic. Polluting, expensive, proven to be deadly and massively oversized for the tiny, narrow side streets, cars deal destruction and pain here on a daily basis. Kids, old ladies, dogs and cats all fall victim every year and it’s like, well, so what? I need to get around, don’t I? And these damn golf carts – always getting in my way… Golf carts have a 3.5 horse power electric motor and normally can’t even hit 15 mph, hence no need for all the safety equipment. On the terrible back roads here, they usually go much slower. And I agree, that’s where they belong. Not on the highway or the bike path. But on the frontage roads? Give me a break. You can park 2 golf carts in a parking spot and they are being used in many small tourist towns all over the world as smart transportation. In my mind, car users should give way to golf carts, not the other way around. Golf Carters are doing their part to make life better here by reducing congestion, lowering pollution levels, making less noise, saving energy ($10 USD per month in electricity to run), adding to the fun and interesting flavor of the area and generally being good citizens. They are ideal for shopping and making short trips. And oh yeah, not killing anybody – don’t forget that. Zero is the number of golf cart related fatalities for the last 10 years. Why should we serve as a target for the self-righteous, self-centered and self-serving car population? Seems like it should be the other way around… 5 1 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 That was a pretty good rant, SYSY, until you reached the last paragraph and assumed a lot about those who are not in favor of illegal golf carts and you spewed a chunk of nastiness: " Why should we serve as a target for the self-righteous, self-centered and self-serving car population? Seems like it should be the other way around… " Do you have a problem with golf cart owners being required to be licensed, insured, and not allowed on the main highways? That is what all this is about. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xena Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Thanks Gringal! You ask a good question. The post was a lot of overheated rhetoric until the last sentence which veered over to perfect projection. No one could be more self-righteous, self-centered, and self-serving than the writer of the diatribe that was more trolling than posting. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Unfortunately, the argument --to me-- is comparing apples to really big oranges. This is like saying drones shouldn't be regulated around civil aviation airspace. A problem with slower-speed, tiny vehicles is that they get in the way of a system that is designed for a different kind of traffic. But perhaps more telling is the problem with some of the carted drivers: either unaware or uncaring of the potential problems, or lunatics who want to show off their prowess. I have a friend who spends his winter months in Florida. The retirement community is designed around golf carts, and thousands use them. I am sure they complain about cars, but the difference is this community is designed for cars and trucks, not carts. To think that local carters are "doing their part" is pretty funny. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xena Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Posted on TOB in a golf cart thread: "One of my neighbors had her unlicensed cart confiscated for driving wrong way on city Street in Ajijic" So, some cart owners not only believe they need not be licensed and insured but also believe traffic laws do not apply to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsnob Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 As for accidents, a month ago a senior citizen rear ended a bus, veared off and hit pedestrians, thankfully no one seriously injured, but driver was 85 years old and had eyesight problems and should not be driving anything, the pólice took the vehicle to the pòund--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Oh, man, THAT's what happened to my golf cart... ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvsdawgs Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 8 hours ago, ComputerGuy said: Unfortunately, the argument --to me-- is comparing apples to really big oranges. This is like saying drones shouldn't be regulated around civil aviation airspace. A problem with slower-speed, tiny vehicles is that they get in the way of a system that is designed for a different kind of traffic. But perhaps more telling is the problem with some of the carted drivers: either unaware or uncaring of the potential problems, or lunatics who want to show off their prowess. I have a friend who spends his winter months in Florida. The retirement community is designed around golf carts, and thousands use them. I am sure they complain about cars, but the difference is this community is designed for cars and trucks, not carts. To think that local carters are "doing their part" is pretty funny. On the back roads most of us drive at 20 mi/hr, while it has been stated the fastest the gold carts go is 15. All this about a 5 mph difference? All this drama about something none of us has any say over. It is the government who wishes to crack down, not fellow expats. Chill, people, this too will pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 Right, so one day I decided to retire, move to Mexico and buy a golf cart to drive around. Because that's what they do there. Uh-huh. It isn't the speed. It's the danger and the aggravation, which is even more dangerous. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vetteforron Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 I live near Jocotepec and am co-owner of two nursing homes and use two golf carts which makes our business more efficient with employees moving stuff between our facilities better. However I had to pay a mordidia to ovoid having to having my golf carts confiscated. This new regulation justs sucks. However I only have to pay one time because if the same officer stops me I will insist on a polygraph.. He will loose his job. Trust me they will back down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrm30655 Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 I did a survey on motorcycles and found that 7 out of 8 do not wear helmets unless it is raining. I watched a guy and gal where the gal was on the back, carrying a helmet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 8 hours ago, vetteforron said: I live near Jocotepec and am co-owner of two nursing homes and use two golf carts which makes our business more efficient with employees moving stuff between our facilities better. However I had to pay a mordidia to ovoid having to having my golf carts confiscated. This new regulation justs sucks. However I only have to pay one time because if the same officer stops me I will insist on a polygraph.. He will loose his job. Trust me they will back down. Are your golf carts not licensed and insured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vetteforron Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 50 minutes ago, gringal said: Are your golf carts not licensed and insured? Just buy and sale docs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyvmx Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 My problem with golf carts has to do with the mentality of the driver's. I have one friend that stated she could no longer drive her car because she couldn't see. Then she said she would have to get a golf cart and stay on the back roads. There is a reason your vision is tested before getting a driver's license. I know another woman that can barely walk with a cane and she with a friend who can't see well enough to recognize people sitting at the table go together shopping at SuperLake each Saturday morning in a golf cart. I often wonder when it will be time for me to give up my scooter. I know it's time to sell the hoverboard. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimanjome Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 We have been checking into purchasing a golf cart in addition to our (existing) small SUV. The answer is to purchase a street legal (meaning: directional lights, headlights, seat belts, mirrors) golf cart, which is plated and insured like a regular motor vehicle. You may ask, why do that, why not just buy a car? Answer: a car is more difficult to navigate the narrow streets designed for horses and carts. Harder to find a place to park. Far more pollution and poor fuel mileage. We are specifically looking at the Yamaha gas-engine golf cart that IS sold already equipped as street legal, has a max speed of 25 mph (though on the back streets we would never drive that fast, regardless of type of vehicle) and gets about 180 to 200 mpg. That is an accepted vehicle which fulfills the local motor laws and regulations. I believe the ultimate intent is to limit unplated, uninsured motorized vehicles of any type. The quads will be next. I saw this in SMA, where regs were changed so that all quads had to be street-legal, plated, and insured. Ditto for golf carts, except they aren't used due to the steepness of the hills. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 If a golf cart can go 20 MPH (32 KPH) and is street legal with tag and insurance, why should they be relegated to back roads? The speed attainable is about the speed limit in the cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryB Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 Here you can do anything you want----until. One poster mentioned an accident involving a golf cart and injuries to pedestrians. Another poster mentioned taxi drivers complaining, which I completely believe would happen here too. Something has happened; now we have to pay the price. Paying off El Gordo only encourages him and makes it worse for everyone. If he stops you video him and take it to the Commandante. He will at least get transferred. I think golf carts are perfect for the village. If Pueblo Magico ever goes through, perhaps an exemption could be made for below the carretera as an ecological measure? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joco Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 52 minutes ago, AngusMactavish said: If a golf cart can go 20 MPH (32 KPH) and is street legal with tag and insurance, why should they be relegated to back roads? The speed attainable is about the speed limit in the cities. It is very hard to find insurance for motorcycles. I doubt any company insures golf carts. How much damage can someone do going 10 MPH in a lightweight vehicle, damage that cannot be paid out of pocket? License tags are taxes. A license tag does not insure safety only that a road tax was paid. Most electric carts cannot go 20MPH. I think the max speed for my 341CC Kawasaki Gas (lawn mower) engine is 10MPH. Most gas golf carts have lawn mower engines so not very speedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, Joco said: It is very hard to find insurance for motorcycles. Parker Insurance issue me a policy. They said they write liability only and issue solely to those with a motorcycle operators license. Without a license it would be hard to find like you stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcelonaman Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 hour ago, AngusMactavish said: If a golf cart can go 20 MPH (32 KPH) and is street legal with tag and insurance, why should they be relegated to back roads? The speed attainable is about the speed limit in the cities. 20 mph is fine through ajijic but wouldnt fancy the abuse driving from ajijic to chapala at that speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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