My3ininins Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 I am asking for myself and for a friend. Does it make a difference where you live? I thought I saw that somewhere. I live in Ajijic, and my friend lives in San Antonio. Can we sign up in the same place, or do we need to go to different places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 More importantly - do you speak Spanish? If not, they have politely requested you bring along a translator. If you do not bring a translator - they may not be polite anymore. In fact, is an easy process once you go through it, or used to the Mexican way of doing things, but you would be best to hire a facilitator to make sure they open a file and give you your booklet. Then you have to go in an early morning lineup to get an appointment to see who will become your Doctor. The appointment will usually be the same day. The doctor will measure you, weigh you, ask questions for your file. The other thing to remember, is that although Seguro Popular now covers 266 conditions, and generally has a well stocked pharmacy, if any procedures are not covered they refer to private hospitals and clinics who have agreed to provide services at Mexican prices, not gringo prices. A substantial difference. I would say you have to sign up at the Seguro Popular Community clinic in Chapala, on Flavio. You don't have go to in early for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suegarn Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 When I signed up, I used a facilitator. I went to the clinic in Chapala. But they didn't give me a booklet, just a piece of paper. And they never told me or the translator that I had to make an appointment right away to see a doctor. I signed up about a year ago, and still haven't needed to see a doctor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcelonaman Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Same as suegarn. I also went to so clinic In SAT a few weeks afterwards after reading similar info on here but was told no need to do anything more just come when you need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Seguro Popular and Centro de Salud have been blended together and that's where I signed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 16 hours ago, suegarn said: When I signed up, I used a facilitator. I went to the clinic in Chapala. But they didn't give me a booklet, just a piece of paper. And they never told me or the translator that I had to make an appointment right away to see a doctor. I signed up about a year ago, and still haven't needed to see a doctor? The piece of paper is your contract, take many photocopies of it, but never give it away. It is an extraordinary document, it is a promise to deliver a great many things - including transparency, patient rights, etc. The booklet is another office there, she speaks English. This is the step to open a file for you, every time you use a Seguro Popular procedure, it is given an individual number, and will end up in this file. This is make sure there are no shady doctors accepting cash under the table (I am guessing here). The booklet part, as well as seeing your doctor, is part of a holistic type treatment, where you and your doctor try to map out your health and wellness goals, with a clear path to make them happen. Weird, huh! The staff seem dedicated and team driven - much different than the few times I have had medical care up north - many times, people just shuffling around for a paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 I signed up last week. Just hand the required documents to the lady in the window, no Spanish banter was required, and walk away in five minutes with your acceptance letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 1 hour ago, AngusMactavish said: I signed up last week. Just hand the required documents to the lady in the window, no Spanish banter was required, and walk away in five minutes with your acceptance letter. I admit, this how we did our immigration and Seguro Popular, it took a few trips, lots of smiles, and a tranquil manner. This request by Seguro Popular management to have a translator, or bi-lingual care aide (if you are in a hospital stay) is to save time. Whether they are mistaken or not, they think that this is how to keep health care costs down - they are there for healing, not customer service. Their house, their rules. I already know some people will interpret this as "anti-gringo" but it really is not. Like it or not, many seniors here, of a certain age, think that Como Esta? How are You? is a genuine enquiry as to their general health and the legion of back stories that come along as baggage. AngusMactavish, what a great handle, almost as good as Scrooge MacDuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 4 hours ago, sparks said: Seguro Popular and Centro de Salud have been blended together and that's where I signed up Centros de Salud and Seguro Popular have always been the same entity - Secretaria de Salud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 But a Seguro office in a CDS building is new here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 On 13/06/2017 at 10:21 AM, sparks said: But a Seguro office in a CDS building is new here They just found a job for another employee/s to be administrators in the área you live in because they need to be trained by the Seguro Popular to do paperwork correctly. The office is most likey a "Módulo de Afiliación y Orientación" [Affiliation and Orientation Module] to sign up local families who haven´t joined yet. Very typical of SP/Secretaria de Salud to find more jobs for more people. How else does their empire grow to be the largest in all of Mexco next to Pemex and CFE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jistme Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Chillin, useful information, however I've been unable to find the website that you mentioned that lists the "266" conditions covered by Seguro Popular. The websites that came up are in Spanish, I know, I know, my problema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 I found a poorly translated list, but now I can't find it. It turns out to be wrong anyways, as of one year ago it was 288 items, maybe more now. The go to guys on this stuff are two tremendous board resources here, AlanMexicali or Sonia Diaz. Alan's wife spent many years in senior management of this branch, and Sonia is a facilitator in SMA. Anyway read Alan's post from July of last year. It includes a link for translation of the older list. The list will mention payment, but Jalisco provides free coverage for over 60, for the next three years at least. President Pena Nieto has specifically invited foreigners, with proper residency in Mexico, to join the system and contribute to its growth in any way they can. http://www.chapala.com/webboard/index.php?/topic/62657-seguro-popular/ Sorry, I forgot Alan's post from last year. Can't seem to link internally, this is what he wrote: Quote That transltion of their catalogue of treatments has 266 listed [no year posted on the link] and today there are 287 diseases and treatments covered in the newer catalouge. They add treatments yearly. This week the news stated they added ovarian cancer treatment so 288 treatments are now available. There is talk of adding kidney failure dialysis sometime in the future or paying for outsourcing it to private hospitals who have it. IMSS will not enroll people who already have chronic illnesses such as chronic liver disease, diabeties that is advanced, HIV positive, drug or alcoholic addiction, the mentally ill, advanced COPD etc.but SP accepts them. For this reason sometimes IMSS is not an option for the well to do so they might pay as much as about $9,200 pesos a year to cover their family at the Seguro Popular. As stated before by me. The Seguro Popular has evolved into the 2nd main socialized medicine system in Mexico and is not for the poor anymore, as rumor has it, as it started out to be. One day I see it overtaking the IMSS as the best coverage and facilities of the 2. There is no talk of merging the 2 into one but sharing facilities where locations do not have treatments in an area which went into effect I think June 1st of this year. You only get referals from your system when it is not available in your area to go to either an IMSS, Seguro Popular or ISSSTE hospital for a specific treatment. if they treat it. This is not merging just sharing. They share medicines between the IMSS and ISSSTE the same way as treatments also as of last year sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jistme Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Chillin...thanks! This is most helpful information, I was able to bring up the list, and bookmark it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmorado Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 Can a foreigner with her first temporary resident status card still apply for seguridad popular? There seem to be two schools of thought about this. What is the current list of required documents you must present. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 7 hours ago, marmorado said: Can a foreigner with her first temporary resident status card still apply for seguridad popular? 1 http://www.seguropopular.org/ The requirements for popular insurance that must be met to be part of the popular insurance are: Reside in the national territory. Not be a person entitled to any institution that provides social security such as ISSSTE or IMSS among others. A tempory resident is a resident, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmorado Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 Thank you so much you are always such a wealth of information and so generous with your knowledge. I know there is an office in San Antonio Will they require my Birth certificate? Talk about an Ancient document! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 The important thing is not how much the popular insurance costs but the documents that are needed to join the popular insurance that are: Proof of address of no more than two months old Birth certificate or CURP of each member of the family official identification with photograph of the person who owns the family If the person concerned is a student between 18 and 25 years of age, a proof of studies must be submitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angela04101 Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 When I signed up in the Chapala SP office, with a Mexican friend for help in translation, I found an excellent doctor and efficient service. However, beware a nurse there who decides that gringos are not qualified to get SP and will attempt to drive you out. The doctor was supportive of me but his hands are tied and the nurse insisted I had no right to be there. It was very unpleasant and after a few more visits, I elected to not push my luck any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanMexicali Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, angela04101 said: When I signed up in the Chapala SP office, with a Mexican friend for help in translation, I found an excellent doctor and efficient service. However, beware a nurse there who decides that gringos are not qualified to get SP and will attempt to drive you out. The doctor was supportive of me but his hands are tied and the nurse insisted I had no right to be there. It was very unpleasant and after a few more visits, I elected to not push my luck any further. Report her to the federal Secretaria de Salud adminstration office there in the building or at the SP hospital. They have 2 forms you filll out and they will investigate incidences of incompetance, predjuice, lying and corruption. I reported a Dra. lying to me and it took about 30 minutes at our ISSSTE Specialists Clinic. My wife, her family and our friends report these types and this is the only way it will stop. It doesn't have to be tollerated anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmorado Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 So sorry to hear about these unpleasant experiences. I wonder if the office in San Antonio or San Antonio would be less stressful. I was told that since you cannot get a passport without a birth certificate, that document is no longer required. Does anyone know if that is the case? I’m not sure I would be able to get a copy of mine very easily from here. Thanks to everyone for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 10 hours ago, AngusMactavish said: Birth certificate or CURP of each member of the family Don't you have a CURP? Can you sign up in San Antonio and if so, where? I think you need to go to Chapala. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annadon7 Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 Does anyone know where to sign up for SP in the Jocotepec municipality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLIN Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 1 hour ago, annadon7 said: Does anyone know where to sign up for SP in the Jocotepec municipality? Probably at the new community hospital there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmorado Posted May 30, 2018 Report Share Posted May 30, 2018 Thanks for your responses. What does CURP stand for/mean? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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