More Liana Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 http://www.vocativ.com/11-2013/magical-mexican-land-smurfs-carry-aks-gargamel-rapes-kills/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSOKI Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 We follow the news from Michoacan as well. We are worried about our friends there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside7 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Its a horrible situation and could say that it is a failed state, more bodies found at La Barca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandrita Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 I have a Mexican family in Michoacan and am always concerned about them. What is the solution??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 More English-language coverage on the same horrible situation, from the Los Angeles Times, November 17. "....where you are from determines where you can go." http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-mexico-michoacan-fighting-20131117,0,4685306.story#axzz2lPPUXsBw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valbogyo Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 The self defence groups are inviting foreign journalists to come and visit their outposts and see for themselves. What is encouraging is to see foreign journalists getting reports out regarding what is happening. Seeing and hearing actual interviews with some of the leaders really helps. As mentioned in one of the articles, the government is no longer denying that there is a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 What bothers me is that it is a failed state because the federal government refuses to root out the bad guys. What bothers me is that people are being intimidated, extorted, held hostage and raped and killed in their own communities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex45920 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 What bothers me is that some people insist that the situation in Michoacan is the fault of Presidente Peña. The L.A. Times article clearly states: "Whether President Enrique Peña Nieto can reassert authority may prove the most serious test of his government's security policies. His predecessor, who made Michoacan a priority, failed." I think this is a much more fair and accurate assessment of the situation in Michoacan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Liana Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 So, Alex, what you are saying is that EPN is unable to reestablish authority in Michoacan and that is a major fault of his security administration? I believe that Alex quoted the LATimes article as saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hud Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Then whose fault is it that security and order is not being reestablished now in Michoacan, but progressively getting worse and worse? Doesn't EPN control the military that is not helping to eradicate the problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex45920 Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 So, Alex, what you are saying is that EPN is unable to reestablish authority in Michoacan and that is a major fault of his security administration? That is not at all what I am saying. As the Times article states, EPN has made a major commitment to solving the problem created by his predecessor. When he became the president less than a year ago, he inherited this problem due to the failed policies of the previous administration. And now. he is trying to fix it. In time, his policy may also fail. But to put the blame on EPN for the situation in Michoacan is a patently false accusation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Liana Posted November 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 No one has blamed Presidente Peña for the situation in Michoacán. Here's yet another article, this time in Spanish, that offers yet another point of view--a different point of view of the problem, and a different point of view for a possible solution. http://www.quadratin.com.mx/justicia/Michoacan-peor-imposible-Raymundo-Riva-Palacio/ I do think it's important to note that a large percentage of what the federal government--and for that matter, the state government, the city governments, the town governments--say is fachada...window dressing, if you will, and will not and is not meant to bear fruit. It's meant to sound right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSOKI Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Two supposed members of the cartel received in the Senate ?Who is capable to come up with a workable solution? And in the meantime what are the residents of Michoacan suppose to do? Roll over and die? There are 113 munucipalities in Michoacan. How many of them are run by the cartel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valbogyo Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 There are 113 munucipalities in Michoacan. How many of them are run by the cartel? A few less this month than last month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studio del Sol Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Who is capable to come up with a workable solution? And in the meantime what are the residents of Michoacan suppose to do? Roll over and die? Grupo de Autodefensa seems to be the workable solution. I don't think you sit down at the table with these guys. The smart folks in Michoacan would be supporting the defense since the local authorities either can not or will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeser Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Good article from the "Modesto Bee", Modesto Calif. on Michoacan situation. http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2013/11/autodefensas-dr-mireles-california.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valbogyo Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Good article from the "Modesto Bee", Modesto Calif. on Michoacan situation. http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2013/11/autodefensas-dr-mireles-california.html It is a good article. You have to worry about this fella, he has really put himself out there. What did people think of the Guadalajara Reporter article, this week? I noticed it did not include a statement from any member of the auto defence movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studio del Sol Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Many buried bodies have been exhumed along the Lerma River in Jalisco near the border of Michoacan. A friend in the US sent this with the question--does the Mexican press report these events? http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-mexico-mass-grave-20131125,0,7743678.story#axzz2ljU2wjIa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSOKI Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Yes, it does. EL INFORMADOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studio del Sol Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 thanks! passed that on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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