OneMexicoExpat Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 We probably all know lawyer Spencer McMullen of Intercasa, who contributes so much to this web board. I'd be interested to know whether there are any others you would recommend in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexy Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Azucena Bateman (Campos) Ocampo #30, Ajijic 766 1654 legalabc@yahoo.com.mx She's smart, quick, reliable, fair-priced. Fluent English. Better than anyone else I've been to in my years here. Lexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbonman Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Stay as far away as possible from Carlos del Toro, took a large amount of money from me & did "zero" work. I have a legal process against him that has taken two years , and still ongoing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seren Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 I second the recommendation for Azucena. She's all that the previous poster said and more. I think Spencer's great as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cartero Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 It seems to me that the answer to your question depends upon what you need him for. You wouldn't want a lawyer who specializes in torts to defend you for murder; anymore than you'd want a General Practioner to perform brain surgery on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercasa Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Don´t judge a lawyer by their English skills. Getting a translator is easy, finding a skilled lawyer is hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 So, Spencer, are you saying that Azucena's English is better than her skills as a lawyer ... or, are you "just saying"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercasa Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 I am saying. I worked with Azucena and she is nice, speaks great English and is honest. My comments are in general, I am a newer attorney, have the best English skills and am honest but do not have years of litigation here under my belt so I am an example, although I have 4 attorneys working for me and they know more than me and thats why I hired them. There is more talent in Guadalajara as far as attorneys go due to demand for excellence there where a few words of English won´t cut it and at a bare minimum most good attorneys have masters degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Feet Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 First have to look for an honest lawyer and then check out if he is good. I would stick to Spencer. I have heard horror stories about lawyers here and everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 "Don´t judge a lawyer by their English skills. Getting a translator is easy, finding a skilled lawyer is hard." Good point Spencer and that goes for doctors, surgeons and any professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natasha Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Like all other professions, service providers, etc. -- doctor, lawyer, veterinarian, dentist, mechanic, plumber, electrician -- the list goes on and on, there are always opinions and experiences "pro" and "con". I to beg to differ with negative report about Carlos Del Toro, who has done excellent work for me and several of my friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbonman Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 You can differ with the report on Carlos del Toro, the facts remain as stated(and others can verify) but the Police are trying to find him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Max Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 I second the recommendation for Azucena. She's all that the previous poster said and more. I think Spencer's great as well. I third the recommendation for Azucena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandrita Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Fourth recommendation for Azu! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMexicoExpat Posted April 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Just FYI - Azucena Bateman is refusing to give me her Cedula #. That's what is used to verify being a licensed lawyer in Mexico. I'm just saying. Draw your own conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMexicoExpat Posted April 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Plus, I talked with Henri Loridans. He confirmed that he is only licensed to practice law in the US - not licensed to practice law in Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joco Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 Plus, I talked with Henri Loridans. He confirmed that he is only licensed to practice law in the US - not licensed to practice law in Mexico. I'm sure there are many lawyers practicing law in Mexico who are not licensed. Most of them do not need a license. I also haven't seen or heard of Mexico having state boards that enforce ethics or strip lawyers of their licenses. Here I think we have to find out the hard way or by word of mouth about an attorney because you cannot research an attorney with a state board like in the U.S. Attorneys in the U.S. do not lose their licenses because they lose cases so as a rule if the attorney is winning what you want, who cares? Sometime ago didn't Spencer offer a list of lawyers who practice law lakeside but are not licensed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexy Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 Just FYI - Azucena Bateman is refusing to give me her Cedula #. That's what is used to verify being a licensed lawyer in Mexico. I'm just saying. Draw your own conclusions. Did you simply ask her, as you did Henri Loridans, if she is licensed? Henri Loridans doesn't claim or even imply he is licensed. That is why he works with licensed lawyers in his office when one is required. Lexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMexicoExpat Posted April 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 I called her office. The receptionist said she didn't know what her cedula number was. I said that was OK - I would just email her instead and ask. I sent her a nice email asking what her cedula number was. She sent back a very defense response asking who I was and why I wanted to know. She said I should make an appointment with her instead. That was at 1:37. I replied that an appointment wasn't really necessary - that I'd been told that it's a good idea to check a prospective lawyer's cedula number to make sure the lawyer is licensed to practice in Mexico. I then asked again if she would let me know her cedula number. No response. At 3:07, I emailed again and said that since she wasn't responding, I would have to assume she doesn't have a license. I asked her to please advise. No response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennie Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 lexie, re read onemexioexpat's post. she said the attorney refused the give the registration #. dont be so quick to answer. anyway, if a mexican lawyer is not licensed, do you think they will tell you? she could have been insulted as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMexicoExpat Posted April 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 I'm sure there are many lawyers practicing law in Mexico who are not licensed. Most of them do not need a license. I also haven't seen or heard of Mexico having state boards that enforce ethics or strip lawyers of their licenses. Here I think we have to find out the hard way or by word of mouth about an attorney because you cannot research an attorney with a state board like in the U.S. Attorneys in the U.S. do not lose their licenses because they lose cases so as a rule if the attorney is winning what you want, who cares? Sometime ago didn't Spencer offer a list of lawyers who practice law lakeside but are not licensed? Joco - the issue is not whether a particular lawyer is a good one. The issue is whether they know enough about Mexican law to be qualified to advise anyone. Having a cedula is just the foundation. You would want someone who calls themselves a doctor to have an MD certificate, wouldn't you? That doesn't mean he or she is a good doctor. It means he or she has earned the right to call him/herself a doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexy Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 lexie, re read onemexioexpat's post. she said the attorney refused the give the registration #. dont be so quick to answer. anyway, if a mexican lawyer is not licensed, do you think they will tell you? she could have been insulted as well. Bennie--I asked onemexicopat a question. And her answer is interesting. Lexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercasa Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 I worked in a law office with Azucena and know her personally and can attest to the fact that she is an attorney and has her cedula profesional or federal attorney card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennie Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 lexy, i meant the attorney could have been insulted when asked for credentials. maybe thats why she refused, even being qualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMexicoExpat Posted April 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 I worked in a law office with Azucena and know her personally and can attest to the fact that she is an attorney and has her cedula profesional or federal attorney card. Good to know. She hasn't won any points with me, though. I assure you, I was very polite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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