HEART ATTACKS AND CARDIO ISSUES AT LAKESIDE

[Pelican9]

Seems to me that many older folks here ,over 55 have passed away as a result of cardio issues

Also notice  an abundance of clinics and heart specialists in the area. Anyone have an idea if its the

altitude of the area, seems to me it may be less of a problem in sea level areas such as Manzanillo or

Puerto Vallarta , only for observing facebook postings in PV and Mazatlan and similar areas.....

Comments appreciated as i am an older man thinking to maybe live lakeside full time.

[Jreboll]

The altitude would only affect you if you had preexisting issues.  Otherwise your body adapts to the altitude.  Take it easy when you first get here and slowly build up your stamina and soon you’ll be up to speed.

[lakeside7]

Most people die from cardio-related issues complicated by secondary problems like diabetes and being overweight etc. So it figures that living at a higher elevation will affect your deterioration due to old age. When that time comes you will have to make a couple of choices, surgery, meds, or lower elevation. Or a combination of the 3. Lakeside is Paridse so we are living longer and enjoying a good quality of life. Question how long is long enough???

[ibarra]

Most of us are way over 50 and a lot over 70 and even 80.  Look at the statistics in other countries, people that age die.   

Here's a few quotes from various medical journals - U.S. ( I would imagine the stats from Canada are very similar):

An older study from 2010 Trusted Source notes that the incidence rate of heart attack is seven times more likely in those aged 65–74 compared to those aged 35–44. The incidence rate has a two- to threefold increase for those over the age of 80 compared to those aged 65–69.

The average age of people at the time of their first heart attack is 65.5 years for males and 72 years for females. Having a heart attack is less likely in younger people, and the risk increases as a person ages.

In the United States, someone has a heart attack every 40 seconds. Every year, about 805,000 people in the United States have a heart attack.  Of these, 605,000 are a first heart attack  200,000 happen to people who have already had a heart attack .About 1 in 5 heart attacks are silent—the damage is done, but the person is not aware of it.

[Jreboll]

there’s so much that can be done to ameliorate risk factors but avoiding coming to the Chapala area shouldn’t be one of them.

[ACD]

Undoubtedly a result of the mass poisoning over the past two plus years.

[Alpha1]

https://baillielab.net/critical_care/air_pressure/

At 1524m, the standard barometric pressure is 85 kPa (639 mmHg). This means that there is 84% of the oxygen available at sea level.

[RickS]

The following link will be interesting for the OP... at least... to read.  Know that the altitude at Lakeside is 'around' 5,000'... which technically is generally not considered 'High Altitude'... medically. 

As stated by one, the first notable affect at Lakeside will be 'shortness' of breath. But also as noted, that will subside as the body adapts. HOWEVER some things are not 'noticeable' and if one is known (or not!) to have some sort of coronary or vascular disease, 5,000' can be a problem. 

My recommendation... as an old fart who has lived at 5,000' for 50 years.... is that if an aging person is planning on moving to a higher altitude one should certainly first have a thorough physical exam with special attention to the heart, vascular and respiratory systems.

Interesting article.....

https://newsroom.heart.org/news/advance-planning-can-lower-risks-of-high-altitude-activities-for-people-with-heart-disease

[ACD]

It's not altitude sickness. Undoubtedly myocarditis from the warp speed poison.

[Alpha1]

High Altitude is considered 4,900 – 11,500 feet above sea level (1,500 – 3,500 meters), very high altitude is from 11,500 – 18,000 feet (3,500 – 5,500 meters), and extreme altitude is 18,000 feet (5,500+ meters) and above.

[NEWMtnMama]

I suspect it also depends on where you came from. Like Rick, I lived most of my life at 5000' or higher. When I go to lower elevations, there is too damn much air. 

[RickS]

.... and it generally is waaaaay to thick (humid)!

[Alpha1]

 After a few days of acclimatization, cardiac output returns to normal, but heart rate remains increased, so that stroke volume is decreased. Pulmonary artery pressure increases without change in pulmonary artery wedge pressure. This pattern is essentially unchanged with prolonged or lifelong altitude sojourns. 

[RickS]

13 hours ago, Alpha1 said:

High Altitude is considered 4,900 – 11,500 feet above sea level (1,500 – 3,500 meters), very high altitude is from 11,500 – 18,000 feet (3,500 – 5,500 meters), and extreme altitude is 18,000 feet (5,500+ meters) and above.

I also think that 5,000' is high altitude but I was just using this statement from the medical article: 

The statement defines low altitude as 1,640 to 6,560 feet above sea level, such as Denver, Colorado, which is 5,280 feet above sea level. Moderate altitude is categorized as 6,560 to 9,840 feet above sea level, such as Park City, Utah, which is 7,000 feet above sea level. High altitude is considered 9,840 – 16,400 feet, such as Mount Rainer, Washington, which is 14,411 feet above sea level; and extreme altitude is 16,400 feet or higher above sea level, such as the summit of Denali in Alaska, which is 20,310 feet above sea level.

[ACD]

On 5/15/2023 at 8:49 PM, Pelican9 said:

Anyone have an idea if its the altitude of the area, seems to me it may be less of a problem in sea level areas such as Manzanillo or Puerto Vallarta , only for observing facebook postings in PV and Mazatlan and similar areas?

Ibarra has it right: in an open-air assisted living resort, cardiac care and death reigns supreme - all the more so after the mass poisoning of the past two years. The altitude is a big plus for health, especially pollution: clean mountain air.

[lakeside7]

"Clean mountain air"....Lakeside, methinks not

[ibarra]

1 hour ago, lakeside7 said:

"Clean mountain air"....Lakeside, methinks not

Very clean compared to GDL.  

[vetteforron]

Lakeside and Guadalajara both have poor air quality. Just different kinds. Guadalajara is from cars and trucks, buses. Lakeside from burning, farms, dust. 

[Alpha1]

18 hours ago, vetteforron said:

Lakeside and Guadalajara both have poor air quality. Just different kinds. Guadalajara is from cars and trucks, buses. Lakeside from burning, farms, dust. 

Actual air quality monitored locally.

Ajijic weather hosts a PurpleAir PA-II air quality sensor mounted adjacent to the temperature/humidity sensors for the Davis Vantage Pro2 Plus weather station. The results are automatically sent to purpleair.com website for mapping and analysis.

[ACD]

Sure: if you stand by the main road, it's less than optimal. My place is clean living.

 

 

[ACD]

Consultant pathologist and HART member Dr. Clare Craig told The Epoch Times that there’s “a massive question about whether or not these babies or the mums are vaccinated.”

HART is an organisation that was set up to share concerns about policy and guidance recommendations relating to the COVID-19 pandemic.

“Coxsackievirus is a member of a family of viruses called enteroviruses and one of the most common causes of viral myocarditis,” she said.

“And we saw like with other viruses, the diagnosis of Coxsackievirus reduced massively in 2020 when SARS-COV 2 arrived.

She added that the total number of people getting myocarditis after 2020 stayed the same suggesting “SARS-COV 2 filled the niche” that Coxsackievirus had left behind.

“But then the vaccine comes along and from 2021 the incidence rate of myocarditis went sky high,” she added.

“The public health authorities claim that they want to maintain trust and yet they won’t explore these avenues to rule out concerns,” she added.

https://www.hartgroup.org/myocarditis-began-with-vaccine-rollout/

https://web.archive.org/web/20230517001056/https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2023-DON465

 

 

[Jreboll]

Your OCD with Covid just doesn’t let up.

[Oatsie]

44 minutes ago, Jreboll said:

Your OCD with Covid just doesn’t let up.

Gee...   I missed what ACD posted.  I chose to IGNORE Him - Her.

[ACD]

23 minutes ago, Oatsie said:

Gee...   I missed what ACD posted.  I chose to IGNORE Him - Her.

... as you all perish.

[ACD]

1 hour ago, Jreboll said:

Your OCD with Covid just doesn’t let up.

... as do not others with the Jewish holocaust.