Joe Johnstun

Thanks! Wow, I'm surprised, that makes them one of the first sites to update their information to reflect the new rule set. That is exactly how it was explained to me at the SRE office, & I even saw a nice little old American lady go in the back room to sit for her written Spanish exam.

Thanks everyone. I'm sure a lot of you are familiar with that huge sigh of relief that escapes you as you walk to the bank to pay for the 'tramite' after finally getting all your paperwork approved & passing the test.

The 2nd test is much easier, yes. 70% won't help though, you need at least 80% to pass. I also knew 6 of the questions & had to educatedly guess the other 4. The multiple choices for "how many senators" were: 500; 127; 128; 129. The Spanish test is extremely easy. In Part One, you read a few paragraphs out loud then answer multiple choice questions about what you just read. In Part Two, you pick a photo at random out of a book of photos, then write 3 grammatically-correct sentences in Spanish about that photo. Any sentences of any length about anything tangentially related to the photo. I got a photo of a Mexican running a marathon. I wrote, "Vargas is wearing sunglasses," & "Vargas isn't worried that he's in 2nd place because he's saving his strength," etc, etc. As to how it went for me, I officially became the 1st motherfucker ever in all of history to pass the new & impossible 2018 Mexican Nationality Exam, & got a big 000001 on my application, which is now being processed. The agents said there are usually at least 20 applications every month, but every single one this month had failed due to the new test format. Hopefully now that Anonymous Source has the released the questions/answers for the first 2 test versions, more people can pass. Good luck, Travis, you got this!

Once you have all your papers in order, you can take the exam(s). The paperwork is the easy part. The problem is, the exam questions are no longer provided. This topic is an attempt to address that particular problem, not the rest of the process (which is pretty self-explanatory). Please no spam, Sonia.

Hi Sonia. Why did you post this link here?

Thank you, Anonymous Source! You're the best.

Okay, let's not wade into subjectively racist waters. This topic is meant to be strictly informational, leave your metaphors at the door. I went for my appointment today. I asked about the previous exam age limit that was removed from the SRE website. I was told that if you are over 61 & from a Latin American country, you will not have to sit for any tests. If you are over 61 & not of Latin American origin, you will not have to take the history/geography/culture/gastronomy test. You will, however, have to sit for a written Spanish language exam regardless of your age. The Spanish language exam involves reading comprehension, grammar, spelling, conjugation, etc. You will read an article in Spanish then answer questions about the article in essay form in written Spanish. You will be judged on all the annoying little details such as accent marks, capitalization, correct verb conjugation, etc. I would love to provide details on the history/culture exam, but they were very secretive about it, & I would not want to get in any trouble by revealing things I should not. No pictures, no cell phones, & no recording devices or phone-a-friend help were of course allowed. If only there were some kind of anonymous source with a borderline photographic memory who is definitely NOT me who could remember all the questions & answers & pass them to us..........

Fingers crossed.

What I mean is that the wording of the law that states the naturalization requirements has been changed slightly twice since 2009, along with the exam itself. As you can see on the current official Naturalización Por Residencia page, they have deliberately removed the particular wording that formerly exempted minors & seniors from the exam. I'm still holding out hope that the changes were only to that page & not to the actual exam/law. But as you can see, someone somewhere took pains to remove the mention of minors & seniors from that clause, for some reason. If it's still in doubt when I go for my appointment in 2 (short) weeks, I'll ask about the minor/senior exam exemption.

Damn, that's from 2009. Both the law & the exam have changed twice since then.

Thanks! Link?

Yeah, all the sites state the old age range & the old prerequisites. The new prerequisite page states no such age range. "Para acreditar lo señalado en la fracción III del artículo 19 de la ley de nacionalidad, a los interesados en obtener la nacionalidad mexicana por naturalización se les aplicará un cuestionario sobre cultura e historia general de México..." May be time to update Sonya's site.

Yep, surprise, surprise, no more mention of any age range for the new Mexican Citizenship Exam. Link to prerequisite page here, maybe you can find a mention... I'm not complaining about the exam; I'm complaining about the new Study Guide as compared to the old one. For instance, the 2nd link in the new Study Guide leads to a page that doesn't exist. It's this kind of competence that gives me concerns about the new exam. What if they ask a question about a Mexican hero who never existed?

Exactly - in addition to over 1,000 pages of provided reading material, there are also half a dozen links to abstract online resources such as the Virtual Library of Anthropology/History & the entire Mexican Atlas. The Spanish part is easy. The ocean of other things I need to know in addition might also be easy. Or it might not. There's no way to tell. Uncertainty is man's best friend.

The SRE is apparently retiring the previous citizenship exam at the end of 2017. A new one will be put into place starting January 08, 2018. The old "Guia de Estudio" had a list of 100 Mexico-related questions with multiple choice answers. The new "Guia de Estudio" is a list of links to scholarly treatises in esoteric Spanish totaling over 1,000 pages. It begins with an in-depth study on the etymology of the word "history." It also touches on relevant topics such as globalization, infant mortality rates, average housing size, federal science spending, rates of sub-employment, corn production trends, & of course the entire "CONSTITUCIÓN POLÍTICA DE LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS MEXICANOS" (296 pages of highly annotated Spanish legalese). It is entirely possible to read all of the material; somewhat less possible to memorize it all; & in the end, highly unlikely to glean any relevant information that might be buried within the avalanche of fiscal statistics & academic climaxes. I initially thought they might only have changed the Study Guide & kept the actual test the same, but the man with whom I made my appointment at the SRE office mentioned that he thought the new test would be essay based. He didn't know anything concrete, of course, the lawyers I have talked to have no information about the new test, & there is no information online. I assume no one here knows anything either, since no one will actually see it until the new year. My appointment is on January 8th, 2018. I will post updates here in case anyone is interested. Please comment if you have any information about the new 2018 citizenship exam. Hoping for the best; expecting the worst.