pedro malo

I know this is outside of what's being ask here but have you considered flying?  $800 pesos one way with Aeromar from GDL airport and only 55 minutes of travel.

On 11/21/2019 at 8:13 AM, ComputerGuy said:

I am not talking about Eric's post. I am talking about the unnecessary blather following it. Debating it. Chewing it up. Ignoring the sensitivities of others.

I would be happy to dissect all the comments, but I am breaking my own rule concerning this discussion. I am out. Spencer, my apologies and condolences.

 Any elaborations beyond sending condolences is in very poor taste and insensitive.  Thank you for pointing that out CG.

3 hours ago, Mainecoons said:

That thing is so ugly it wouldn't surprise me if the residents died from sheer sensory degradation.

They remind of the "public housing" built under the Erich Honecker administration in the former East Germany.  Talk about depressing.............

Keep in mind that those poor bastards stealing the gas are mostly selling it to narcos at a reduced black-market price to enable them to continue transporting their "wares" throughout the country, killing and mameing while the rest of the population is suffering in long gas lines.  I don't have much sympathy for them except for the "taco vendors and nursing mothers" that may have become part of the fry.  Anyone participating, aiding the narcos, especially people in positions of authority (Peña Nieto) need to meet their well deserved final fate.  God Bless AMLO in his efforts to combat this decease and for being a man of his word!  How refreshing for a politician!

14 minutes ago, AngusMactavish said:

It is not punishment, it's fate.

I guess collateral damage would be taco vendors and breastfeeding mothers watching the bucket brigade. 

Sad but true.

I was looking at some property in San Juan some years back on their water front street (properties on lake side of street were lake front lots).  I notice a manhole cover open and raw stinking sewage with all the disgusting chunks of fecal matter and paper that one might imagine, gushing at a considerable volume and pressure, streaming down one of the side alleys directly into the lake.  That answered the swimming question for me!

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3 hours ago, ibarra said:

Am I missing something?  At 8000 to 9000 pesos per sq mtr, that comes out to 300 to 400 U.S. dollars per square foot. Right?

Per square meter not foot.

So could the TIP still be applied for online, given it is a Mexican national with US Permanent Residency applying? Seems like the selections and categories for the TIP application are worded towards foreigners (Extranjeros) on the website. Would a Mexican with US Residency apply for the TIP in person at border?

Can the RP husband drive the US plated car while in Mexico? I thought not and not sure the relevancy because the op didn't ask.

Very good question since I plan on doing all the driving. Anyone know this answer?

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The last category of "Mexican immigrants repatriated" could work, unless Aduana argued (as they did in our case) that since Pedro Malo's wife is filing legal applications to only come back temporarily, ( not repatriating) in the form of applying to only temporarily import the vehicle, then she is not actually repatriating.

If all Mexicans returning to Mexico qualified under the SAT clause listed above, there would seem to be no need for the Paisano Program (?)

Can a Mexican wife, with dual citizenship (with one foot still in the USA and still with legal obligations to the USA), , who also has a US citizen husband, a dual citizen who is simultaneously appliing for a temporary vehicle permit, simultaneously also convince Aduana that they are not just temporarily in Mexico, instead by somehow proving that they are repatriating ?

Note that the "repatriating" clause mentions returning to Mexico due being forcibly deported back to Mexico, in the same breath, meaning that SAT intends that the applicant really is not planning on a temporary life in Mexico.

Good point snowyco.

Where did you find the Paisano Program dates on the Segob website? I can't find them listed there. Thanks.

Both sets of answers are correct - and I apologize for not answering all the questions about both you and your wife.

When replying to multi-question posts, people on this board have generally answered only some of the questions. Not answering all questions doesn't seem to be a big issue(?)

I wrote that the foreign person (husband) with the Residente Permanente could not temporarily import the car.

Clearly, the Mexican citizen wife could temporarily import the car. The 2 issues are mutually exclusive.

Re the remaining question bringing in a load of household goods in that TIP vehicle: Since the couple also wants to bring in a load of goods .... It's worth noting that at some border crossings, we've had Aduana agents apply duties on the load, when the vehicle is in the name of a Mexican citizen. ... It happened that way with my Mexican wife and I, where I could bring in a load of goods under a Menaje de Casa list, but because we put the vehicles in my wife's name, Aduana insisted on charging duties on the load.

In the interest of offering pertinent details on all questions asked: If you put the vehicle in your wife's name, and Aduana wants to charge duties on your load of household goods, it may be easier or worthwhile to enter Mexico during one of the annual Paisano program periods to avoid paying unnecessary duties.

http://www.paisano.gob.mx/

In the past, the Paisano program operated from the holidays of early November- early January, summer, and during Semana Santa.

"El periodo del Programa Paisano para el ejercicio 2015, será el siguiente:

• Semana Santa: 13 de marzo al 13 de abril de 2015.
• Verano: 12 de junio al 17 de agosto de 2015.
• Invierno: 1 de noviembre de 2015 al 8 de enero de 2016 "

Excellent advise snowyco! This is very advantageous to know. Between the 3 of you, I'll now be able to plot my failsafe strategy. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience with us. Thanks!

A Mexican National with proof of dual citizenship or living in the US with a US Permanent Resident visa/card with proof of Mexican Citizenship can get a TIP good for 12 months with multiple exits and entries for a total of 6 months in Mexico with the vehicle every 12 month period.

YES!! Thank you Alan and Jim!

Actually, snowy is not correct. Mexicans living in the U.S. can get a TIP good for 180 days and bring a car into Mexico to visit family, etc., and return NOB. My wife has done it.

Your Mexican neighbor came in as a US citizen, not a Mexican, and he came on a visitor permit. Happens a lot, as Mexicans from NOB often want to keep their US cars, and they go back every 6 months.

Thank you Jim!

So would my wife need to be a US citizen to get the TIP or is a US Permanent Residency card enough?

So my wife as a US resident could not bring the car into Mexico on the TIP either?

I'll have to ask how my neighbor did it. He is Mexican and lives in Joco. He also holds US citizenship. He went to the US on vacation where he has a US plated car and drove the car back to Joco. He must have done it as a US citizen with a TIP?

I'm wondering if anyone has information on whether a Residente Permanente or a Mexican Citizen can bring a US plated car into Mexico on a Temporary Importation Permit?

I'm a RP and my wife is a Mexican born citizen. We'd like to bring house stuff from our US home to our home Lakeside. Could I bring in my US plated pickup on the TIP as a Residente Permanente or could my Mexican wife if I put the truck title and registration in her name? I have a Mexican neighbor who had a US plated car and took it to Mexico on vacation. Can we do this legally too?

Any information or personal experiences appreciated!

I, for one, vote to allow that "shameless advertising". Thanks for Everything you do here for Free, Spencer.

I second that! Thank you Spencer!